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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Did He need to in a perfect world. What it is called is not the issue... we know it was the seventh day of creation and ... we know it was a day of rest, .....and we know it was a sanctified day .... and we know it was called the sabbath latter on. There is a lot of certainty known. Gen...
  2. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    You say i mix the old and new, but i think your separating faith and works. Gods part of the covenant old and new was perfect. God was not faulty in the old covenant. The new is based on us trusting in Jesus to renew a right spirit in us. In the old the people tried to do it themselves. By...
  3. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: If the sabbath was removed at the cross, why did Jesus say the above. He would have known if the sabbath was no longer important. But after His death this even happened and it can be applied the the...
  4. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Pauls work was Evangelical, the gospel was the center. How is the sabbath day only for Jews? God made the sabbath holy at creation and there was no Jews. Just because God asked the Jews to keep it holy does not mean it is only for them. God also asked the Jews to not murder, and not lie, or...
  5. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    I will fail.. i can do nothing without Christ. Joh 15:5-10 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing...... 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Letts look at James 2. 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in...
  7. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Yes i believe Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Joh 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. All I'm saying is go and sin no more. The law has not passed away and the law points out sin...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Pauls said it so well. I'm hoping that you will appreciate what Paul is saying. Will i continue in sin? I will but not on purpose. Like Paul ...Rom 7:21-25 KJV 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Really. Lets see.... Matt 5 is about the beatitudes and letting your light shine...then vs 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise...
  10. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    We are justified by the perfect righteousness of Jesus. A gift He give to us by faith. They didn't enter the promised land because they didn't trust in God's ability to conquer and win it for them. They were being truthful when they stated they could not defeat those in the promised land. But...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Trust in Jesus's gift. AMEN. Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Contintue in sin ?? Sin is the transgression of the law. 1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Mat 5:17-19 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    All good comes from God. All glory goes to God, wheather the person knows it or not. The closer we come to Jesus the more sinful we appear. Standing in His righteousness we are poor, blind and naked. So the word and a knowledge of Jesus helps us to understand sin. Joh 8:32 And ye shall know...
  14. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    JESUS is everything good. He is my peace, rest, and life. He is bread, and water, He is the lamb without fault and our brother. Because we find REST in Jesus that does not mean the sabbath rest is gone. The sabbath was made before sin. We talked about Col 2 and the shadow ordinances, which...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Abolished the law of commandments expressed in ordinances.. This is not the weekly sabbath. Jesus said to keep the commandments, and it is important to get it right. We have an avocate with the Father and you are right "we can't keep the law perfectly, we need the help of Jesus." If the law is...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    The sabbath was made for man.. Mar 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Man = a human being, whether male or female, generically, to include all human individuals. The sabbath was...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Jesus said to pray that your flight is not on the sabbath... If the sabbath was not important then why did Jesus say this. If Jesus was referring to 70ad when Jerusalem was destroyed by Rome, or the end...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    If Jesus gives you and me the righteousness that He lived (perfect robe of righteousness), we are seen as perfect without fault. By faith we recieve that perfect robe. So the faithless are not covered by Jesus's righteousness, so they are judged by their own works and are guilty before God...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    God judges us on what we know. You don't need a law about not killing to know it is wrong. If i listen to my conscience and not murder, steal, commit adultery or lie, I'm instinctively doing the right thing, without a knowledge of the law, I'm a law unto myself. Most religions teach us not to...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Rom 2:11-15 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be...