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  1. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    You presume that not keeping it to the Lord is good. Presume that both are a blessing. Is Paul saying that regarding and not regarding is a blessing. Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is...
  2. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    In the first century, after the passing of the apostles, Christians continued keeping the Sabbath. This fact is evidenced by the literature of that period, including the Letter to the Magnesians, written by Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch (circa AD 30–107). In it, he acknowledges the practice of...
  3. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Recently, new evidence has come to light. Early Waldensians were members of a reformation movement in Europe, specifically the Alpine regions of Spain, France, and Italy, during the high Middle Ages. Considered forerunners of the Protestant Reformation by various historians, the Waldensians...
  4. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Yes it is amazing, there is alot in history that shows that people (a remnant) kept the sabbath and the law. Satan hates those that are kept the commandments and much of history has been destroyed too.
  5. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    What about the laws.... Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Thou shalt not covet. What about these laws?
  6. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    If you read Pauls other statements you'll see that he is saying you are not under the curse of the law, not under the penalty of the law. The very next verse.... Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Rom 3:20 ....for by the law is the...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    That is against the bible principles. I don't believe it is Jesus plus our holiness. It is Jesus plus Jesus plus Jesus = Holiness. I believe Jesus wants us to be holy like He was holy and that by grace through faith He empowers us to be Holy. Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Do you think we should steal today? Do you think we should commit adultery today? Or covert? Or take the Lords name in vain today? These laws were given to Israel and they have laws to deal with people that don't obey. If you believe in not committing adultery today why don't you enforce ...
  9. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    The sabbath law that i keep is the 4th commandment. It is not all the cerimonial laws and civil laws. What part of the sabbath law do i not keep. If the law is what God spoke from heaven. And what Jesus spoke in His example and words. Exo 20:8-11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    See how you added to what i said then used it against me.. I said the 10 commandments have not changed. And i stand by that. I didn't say the old covenant did not change or the civils laws of Israel have not changed.
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    It doesn't matter what my church believes, the bible is the truth. Grace is a gift from God Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. The measure of the gift of Christ = all of heaven, the life and death of Jesus, the Godhead in bodily...
  12. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    No ...I'm saying your interpretation makes Paul a liar. No... I've always stated that Jesus perfectly obeyed the law.
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Amen
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    You can do it if you want. I believe that Jesus fulfilled the cerimonial laws. I trust in the blood of Jesus not the blood of goats and lambs. The weekly sabbath was not part of the cerimonial laws and was introduced at creation. Jesus's death and resurrection did not change the weekly...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Verse 1 was The Just shall live by faith. Verse 2 Hab 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith. This shows that Paul in Rom 1:17 was quoting the old Testament. The just shall live by faith is a principle for all time. From Able to...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    That contradicts Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in...
  17. TMS

    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Think about it.... Why do we need a saviour? SIN What do we need salvation from? SIN When do we need to be freed from sin? Now. Where? This world and our hearts. How ? By faith in Jesus. What have we become slaves to? SIN. Jesus can to set us free from what? SIN, What is the cause of all the...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    I've try to explain myself.. This subject is one that people have spent their lives trying to fully comprehend and failed. The want to make it simple which is okay. A simple faith is good. A childlike faith is good. But to say it is just believe at the exclusion of righteousness and works...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    I going to add some verses and don't say I'm twisting things. The truth is not founded on 1 verse. Verse 1 more to come.... Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. The JUST shall live by FAITH. The...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    We all need to stand before God iindividually. I can't judge your motives and you can't judge mine. God is judge. Decide for yourself. Make the choose yourself based on truth, and you will or you wont regard the sabbath based on which way you are persuaded. Paul isn't saying both choices...