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I don't find myself agreeing with you very often here on CC, but I couldn't agree with you more on this. I was born again (born of His Spirit) before I got baptized. To be honest I'd imagine this is the way most born again Christians do it. The order seems right. That said I was baptized in...

You are asking about one of the biggest mysteries of God here, in my opinion. How does God work with our wills, to bring about His perfect plan? Ultimately I believe this is just one of those thing beyond our ability to understand. I kind of grasp the idea that God is outside of time and space...

How is he wrong? The main difference I see between you two when reading your conversation is that you lift up "us", "our choice", "the decision we make" WAY too high to the point it starts to seem like what we "have to do" in order to be saved. It's the same problem those who say we can lose our...

Can you please define "Replacement Theology" for me, because I'm not 100% sure exactly what people mean by this when speaking about this issue. Is believing that God chose and used Israel to bring forth the Messiah, they did so exactly how He told them He would, and now Jesus is the only way to...

Sorry I hit "post" too early on that first reply and had a little more to add. It wasn't until lunch the next day that I even realized what happen, and it was at lunch that it hit me. "I haven't thought about killing myself all day!!!" Then and there I knew 2 things. 1. Whatever this was, it...

I understand what you're saying and I really want to make sure you understand I'm not disagreeing with you here or trying to correct you. I just want to share with my view on the choice you're talking about here, who get's the credit for it, and how much power is truly in this choice in the big...

I know, and I don't want to be "ugly" about it, or let my ego get too ahead of itself, but to be honestly debating on a Christian website about if men are born into sin or not is just crazy to me. I understand the larger debate here about men's free will Vs Gods, I get that, we can have...

This does NOT say they are born "sinless". If we are going to play the game then the rules need to be the same for both. This states the physically obvious, but does not say that mankind is born in a state of sinlessness. Not at all. Again I find it insane to be on a Christian site, debating if...

I always liked Casting Crowns - Nobody. I can't attach the video from this computer, but I always really liked that song.

The word there is aiōn that is end of the AGE, not world. This is the perfect example of where King James Onlyism bites you in the backside. The translation of this word to "World" is a HUGE reason the pre-trib rapture gained so much footing. And it you take this version and lift it so high that...

Who was the letter to? Unbelievers? Nope. He was talking to/about Jewish believers.

Something about these verses I saw all wrong before and recently had brought to my attention was me thinking that when Paul wrote this he was talking about the atheist when he said "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools", and I just kind of laid it over what I see today, but he is...

So salvation is put completely on our shoulders huh? That doesn't sound like a great gift, or very good news to be honest. If it's up to me then I guess I'm going to burn. That sucks.

Sure does seem that way. Crickets since I asked for some scripture to back up their "claim". Which I don't really like saying claim because they really make no definitive statements or case, they just like to tear down what others say that they disagree with, yet never build a case for their...

So show me the scripture that says we are born perfect. Simple as that. Give 1 that backs up we are born without sin.

Here are a few scripture that point me to man being fallen from birth. Genesis 8:21 And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I ever again...

Okay then, so where does it say we are born perfect and not born sinners? I don't think anywhere.... Yeah you may have to think a few of these things out brother, but this follows perfectly. We are born fallen, every man a sinner, none are righteous, not even one. How can this be when there...

In John 8:34 right out of Jesus mouth- 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin...." What are people born as? Saints? What is every man born to?

Well Jesus says we are slaves of sin or slaves of righteousness and I believe Him and not you. Our will is ALWAYS tied to our natures and is NEVER free, so yes he was right and you are wrong if you are saying our will is free at any time. This isn't some crazy hard to understand concept here, we...

Well then he is right, our will is not free no matter what state we are in. So I do understand what you're saying and what you mean, and don't even disagree with it, but if this is the case then we should just leave the "free" out of it. Don't call being enslaved to your nature "freewill", and...