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So is the ego at play when you think it's your choice and free will that saved you? Because I think the EXACT SAME about those who teach salvation can be lost if you don't obey good enough. I believe those that believe they "choose God" are themselves trying to usurp glory and credit from God to...

Unedifying? What on earth could be more "unedifying" than teaching you can lose salvation? Teaching Gods not powerful enough to keep those who He saves, and even worse He has no clue who will throw His gift back into His face because it seems Satan is the better choice after all. Don't come...

No we can not be saved without the faith He assigned us.

Not only this, but when you take a step back and look at what you're actually arguing for, they don't seem to grasp that they're arguing for a weaker, less powerful, much more ignorant God that does pointless things like save people that will reject Him and go to Hell anyway. I get why they do...

Fair enough. Our faith is from us. But it's not what saves us. Simple enough? Also so we don't get were our faith comes from mixed up. Rom 12:3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober...

ALL God. You/we have NO reason to boast ever. I know this is counter to our thought process and everything we know having lived in the flesh only our whole lives up to rebirth, but even if you're saved by going to His word, believing it, and turning from your way and praying He saves you, and...

Nice breakdown and I agree. I also think the biggest reason there's a debate about election and exactly what it means is this false idea that election means we don't have a choice. We choose, without a doubt we are told to choose this day who you will serve. We have choice, and at the exact same...

They can wander off,of course. The parable of the shepherd and his one lost sheep tells us while the sheep may go astray the shepherd will always bring them home. There is a difference between losing faith ourselves,and God retracting his free irrevocable gift of grace and salvation...

You don't have free will. You're a slave to sin or a slave to Him. That's it. Our will is ALWAY guided by our nature, and there are only 2. Disconnected from God, or through Jesus reconciled to Him. You never have a "FREE" will. At least not according to His word.

Only the way you look at them. They ALL fit my theology tight as a glove, the verses you site and the verses I site, they ALL fit my theology while it's you that seems to throw half them away. There are WAY more verses that say we are saved and kept to the end by God than there are verses that...

This isn't a false teaching though, depending on how it's taught. The Idea that you get saved and can now sin as much as you want with no consequence is as false as it can be, no question. The the Idea that once the Creator of everything gives you grace and draws you in, because of the price...

What are you talking about? "19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." Was John just writing his opinion? Is he Calvinist scum too?

Heck yea. I was there that day, was standing right there where they breached the capital, right where all the people where climbing that wall to the upper levels, I was standing in the street right there. I saw them moving barricades out of the way, yet I am very glad I felt something was going...

I think there's a HUGE difference in OSAS in truth and how it's thought of outside KNOWING the power of God first hand. The way most who reject the idea that once we are saved He keeps us, usually think of it like people saying "I got my ticket punched and now can sin as much as I want without...

Fair enough and I shouldn't get too ahead of myself either, but I am going by what he did the first time, so it's not just blind trust and optimism. What I am very happy about is that is wasn't her that won, because we can take her record and what Dems have been doing the last 4 years and...

Choice and "free will" are not on in the same. We have choice and our will is NEVER free. EVER. You're wrong about this, our will is always a slave to our nature. Our nature is "in sin" or in "Jesus righteousness". I get what you mean, and even though I disagree with the amount of power you put...

Yeah I know right? His record of no new wars and historic peace deals have me real worried too. What world do you two live on? Is it the higher wages or lower prices coming that make you the most mad? You know what I don't care. Enjoy your worry in a better country for you and your family...

Probably the same reason He allowed the Muslim terrorist to parachute into a music festival and try to genocide the Jews. The same reason He allows people to lie about things and be deceived. The same reason that He ever allowed evil men to take Him and kill Him unjustly so we might be saved...

Heck I've been sensing that more than 8 years now.

What about men pretending they're women or women pretending to be men? Pretending that puberty blockers don't come with permanent side effects, or pretending the Democrat party is democratic. There's a TON of pretending going on, they don't want to go head to head with the truth so all they can...