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  1. Shamah

    Not By Works

    I disagree: Hebrews 4:9 is this 4520. sabbatismos ► Strong's Concordance sabbatismos: a sabbath rest Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: sabbatismos Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos') Short Definition: a Sabbath rest Definition: a keeping of...
  2. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Not Scriptually true, true incommon teaching but I can easily disprove this, however tradition dies hard... Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and...
  3. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Actually in verse 9 it is "sabbatismos" and means "a keeping of the Sabbath" Hebrews 4:9 ► Text Analysis Go to Parallel Greek Strong'sTransliterationGreekEnglishMorphology 686 [e]araἄραSo thenConj 620 [e]apoleipetaiἀπολείπεταιthere remainsV-PIM/P-3S 4520 [e]sabbatismosσαββατισμὸςa sabbath...
  4. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Yes it is not the same word for Sabbath, just as Messiah saying "I will give you rest" is not sabbath: Then Jesus said, "Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. 373. anapauó ► Strong's Concordance anapauó: to give rest, give intermission from...
  5. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Yeah and we are back at where we were when we discussed this before, we clearly have differnt understanding of Hebrews 4
  6. Shamah

    Sabbath

    Most people think the Sabbath is transferred to Sunday, I was actually taught something similar to this growing up. I was taught Sabbath (Sat) is for Jews, and SUnday is for Gentiles, it was not until I studied Scripture and history that I realized this teaching was false.
  7. Shamah

    Sabbath

    Ill reply to this after, I want to say this first... DO you understand the intent of the Sabbath according to YHWH as opposed to the "rabbis"? According to YHWH: Isaiah 58:11-14, “YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You...
  8. Shamah

    Sabbath

    One we are to do as He did, He said the Sabbath is made for doing righteousness as Isaiah 58 says... But to the point there is this: Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are...
  9. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Cee What about when Paul says: 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of יהוה, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of יהוה, for which you also suffer, since יהוה shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are...
  10. Shamah

    Not By Works

    SO Paul was spiritualy resting while physically laboring and will be phsically resting when entering the kingdom of YHWH? Can you point to a Scripture that says the rest in Messiah is now, while we are in the flesh and not after our bodies are dead as Rev 14:13 says?
  11. Shamah

    Not By Works

    yeah but He mentions the Sabbath in other parts of the gospels, that they are for doing righteousness... and to me rev 14:13 is clear.. "blessed are those who die in Messiah for they will rest..."
  12. Shamah

    Not By Works

    The moment the blood spilled out of His pierced side and the earthquaked, the chamber that the ark of the covenant was in, was exposed, blood had never touched the right hand side (west) of the ark, Yahshua;s blood did, the moment that blood touched, the Covenant was ratified. Now one could say...
  13. Shamah

    Not By Works

    I have to log off bacsue I am going to leave for a bit, I replied above to your earlier post then saw this one just now, the main part in our debate here it seems you did not mention? the part of v13 " Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because...
  14. Shamah

    Not By Works

    No worries, man, honestly/ yes I agree and would say Yahshua's return is the crowning event. Well I beleive Sciripture is right, but man;s intrepratation and even understadning due to not s ogodd translation has been wrong. I agree Well this does not give your view, it asks me a...
  15. Shamah

    Not By Works

    I am currently speaking to a friend on my phone, about Yah and the like, so I will not be able to full reply this minute, until Im done on the phone... sorry, but I will reply to this post in full when im done.
  16. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Me personally I am haveing a conversation with someone not on the internet so I am focusing on that right now.
  17. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Well Elijah had "a doubleportion of the SPirit of YHWH" and Yah can do what He pe=leases, I would say Yah;s SPirit is upon His, in the same manner as Elijah, but I would have to study what you are saying.
  18. Shamah

    Sabbath

    Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from...
  19. Shamah

    Not By Works

    I respect your view, I do not think it is accurate, as we went back and forth for a while in polite discussion/debate, then you asked me some questions about my belief and I told you it would take a while but I will lay them out (paraphrase), I did then you posted in 3 mins I was wrong, I dont...
  20. Shamah

    Sabbath

    It's not a "jewish Sabbath" Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it...