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No need to apologize. So do you now believe the Trinity is a valid Biblical teaching? If not I can provide more evidence. In Him, bluto

Actually your answer is right. My point in this exercise was to show the distinction of persons within the Trinity which you deny. I would go so far as to say that your denial is based on a lack of understanding. According to John 14 Jesus is the only physical manifestation and revelation of...

First of all why are you changing the subject? John 8:56 has nothing to do with the two questions I ask you. So let me try it this way for the sake of simplicity. We already know God the Father cannot be seen according to Jesus Christ Himself at John 5:37 and at John 6:46. Since that is true...

Look tyler your simply not understanding the trinity teaching. The Lord God Almighty CHOSE to reveal Himself in three distinct persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and yet as you correctly teach that God is one and God is a spiritual being, or spirit. This is according to John 4:24...

Actually I missed the following statement of yours although Nehemiah6 brought it up. "I am trying my best in Love and Grace and humbleness of Heart not use trinity, trinitarian, trinitarianism or oneness. " Why are you doing your level best to not use trinity, trinitarian, trinitarianism or...

I understand everything you stated so do you adhere to the Trinity doctrine and is it a Biblical teaching? IN GOD THE SON, bluto

I have to ask if you personally believe that Jesus Christ is the person of the Holy Ghost? In other words are you a Oneness Pentecostal? Just asking for clarity. Thank You! In Him, bluto

First I want to thank you for all your replies. I know it's not that easy to type out all this stuff because it does take work. Secondly, I remember years ago that the Lamb's supper would be in heaven. If it's not as you say, so be it. Now, after reading what you wrote I'm still not convinced...

Your more than welcome. Some, (like ouster here) thinks I'm playing games when this is very serious stuff. His "snide" remark about me is really his pride. In other words, pride is easily offended and will reject truth, but humility will not take offense and will seek truth. Btw, I went to the...

What's "ruptured" about the question? All I'm doing is quoting verses like here at 2 Thessalonians 1:7 and asking a reasonable and logical question from the text. You then take it upon yourself to answer in the affirmative that the rapture of the church will take place "BEFORE" we get...

Lol! If you've been raptured how come your not eating Lamb chops right now? Instead your texting me? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

The silence around here is hurting my hair! Why are all you pretrib advocates hiding? I have a few other questions to ask that dismantles the pretrib view. Btw, taking recent events happening in the world today at what point do you think these events have to reach or peak before the so called...

The Apostle Paul is praising them for their perseverance and faith in the midst of all their persecutions and afflictions which they have been enduring. (2 Thessalonians 1:4). Vs5, "This is a plain indication of God's righteous judgment so that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God...

What gets me is the fact that in all these discussions as it relates to the rapture they always bring up 1 Thessalonians 5:9. You know, "For God has not destined us for wrath." Which means we will be raptured to avoid God's wrath. Please read my post #39 where I explain how they are taking the...

So let me get this straight. Your going to be up in heaven feasting on Lamb chops with Jesus while all hell is breaking loose here on earth going through the great tribulation. Well I guess that makes sense only to the Biblically ignorant. IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Now that was not very nice, calling me names. And I'm a post-tribulationest, that's my view which was made clear in all my post in this thread. Don't you read! IN GOD THE SON, bluto

What's clear? Obviously your telling me these verses prove that the rapture will occur before the antichrist is revealed who will also be standing in the holy place telling everyone that he is God. To that I say, "Horse Hockey." And here are the reasons why? I will use the very verses you...

I have no idea why you brought up John 14? I suggest you read my #1 post again. My question is simple and to the point. At vs3 the disciples ask Jesus when will the temple be torn down and what is the sign or your coming. and the end of the age/world? Jesus explains all about the things that...

Of course not! Why would I see anything about the antichrist or the Holy Place? The immediate context is Jesus reassuring His disciples that He will not leave them as orphans. Jesus is also explaining that the Father is in Him and He is in the Father. This of course DOES NOT MEAN JESUS IS THE...

Good for you. I've been a Christian over 61 years now and that's what I was taught. I changed my view about 55 years ago and have never looked back. I've always attended Calvary Chapel Churches even to this day and they teach the pre-trib view. My point of this thread is to get people with an...