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  1. Iconoclast

    A Closer Look at God’s Election

    It seems as if you are badly confused. Men always reject God naturally, until effectually called.
  2. Iconoclast

    A Closer Look at God’s Election

    God gives it as a gift, we then exercise it.
  3. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    If we seek scripture seeing God is in control, not man...it falls into place of necessity.. More info can be found here;Home | Bibleinteraction
  4. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    Hello GWH, I am enjoying our interaction so far, even if we have not found total agreement yet. I would like to answer your points here; 1] Mankind has fallen and rebelled against God and His word. We all deserve the just wrath of God for our sinful rebellion. That is why it is called MERCY...
  5. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    God is good to all men. Mt,5:45...45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. rom.3:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering...
  6. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    Hello GWH, It is not true that all men are going to be saved. It is not true that all men even hear the name of Jesus. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher...
  7. Iconoclast

    How does or has the Holy Spirit speak to you?

    There are no new revelations, no new spoken words. The false teachers in the word of faith movement started this up.
  8. Iconoclast

    How does or has the Holy Spirit speak to you?

    The Spirit speaks to you through the scriptures
  9. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    If you do not know the difference between biblical Calvinism, and fatalism, you do not understand what is at issue.
  10. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    Hello GWH, Thanks for responding. I answered your first point. God does save everyone" all inclusive" He never purposed to do so. The Ot High Priest wore 12 stones on his breastplate for the 12 tribes who he interceded for.It was for Israel only in the OT. No Atonement was made for those...
  11. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    Thank you for this solid and edifying post. Surely others will learn truth from this post.
  12. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    You need to examine scripture rather than make profane comments
  13. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    I answered this in my previous post, but let me ask you if you actually read and considered my post #280 ???. Do you see the truth of what I offered to you? I took the time to post it, how about you react to it.
  14. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    Hello GWH, 1] God has never intended to save every person ever born. The bible clearly does not teach that. 2] when he says all men, it means not the jew only, it means Kings, those in authority, young ,old, gentiles,all manner of sinners 3] Where does the bible claim God predestines men to...
  15. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    No non elect person freely responds to God. psalm 14, romans 3...no not one
  16. Iconoclast

    Understanding God’s election

    No ,God predestines the individual people.Rom8 :29-30 is clear...whom/Them.......refer to people, not a plan: 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate...
  17. Iconoclast

    New Christian, big questions for now, still got the training wheels on!

    Les, Do not seek feelings and tingling experiences, but rather Look to the abundant scriptures we are told to obey. 12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. 13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not...
  18. Iconoclast

    What Changed?

    Hello Rufus, I am glad we can interact on messageboards like this one. I offered confessional statements that you cannot improve upon...What Do I mean? 1] God is perfect 2] Biblical election has already taken place before the world was created. [ you did not comment on this Rufus...do you...
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    What Changed?