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  1. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    PS. The bottom line is that faith and works go together; this is what scripture teaches. Faith is the basis; works the evidence. Start with John 5:29. Let me know if you want more....
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    Why Do Christians Ignore Most of the Old Testament Rules?

    untrue, at least Biblically. All that gift means it is something we cannot earn. We must have the gift to be saved BUT we require faith. Scripturally faith can be dead, lost, shipwrecked, compromised, or transferred to something else (ex works). The Modern Church teaches you can have true...
  3. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    I am truly new friend. I did not say you said that. I simply made a statement because there is a false dichotomy in the church that if you are called to live faithfully it is a works based salvation. The Bible makes the point over and over that faith is accompanied by works except in the most...
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    Not By Works

    I would remind us also of David of whom God said was a "man after my own heart", Consider how many times David, in Psalms used the pronoun "I" to state his faithfulness before God. It is not that David was without sin. He did wrong like all of us, but David was committed to doing right and...
  5. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    You have been a light. Praying for you. Blessings.
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    Not By Works

    I assure you that the people blowing themselves up and killing others believe their own version of the truth. They TRULY believe; it is just they are wrong.......It is incumbent on each of us to examine what ALL of scripture says and not trust in other men. I remind you the early church...
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    Not By Works

    No we do not save our se God promised the Israelites that they would enter the Promised Land. Yet those to whom He made the promise did not. God specifically affirms that He did not fulfill that promise in scripture because they lacked the faith to obey, Now you might say but this is the...
  8. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    It is simple. I believe you believe PART of scripture but if you really believe what you say, then pray for His discipline for which ever of us is misrepresenting scripture..... in Him
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    Not By Works

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    Not By Works

    Works do not save; they provide evidence of a true faith.....
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    Not By Works

    No this is incorrect; this is the view of PART of scripture but scripture must be taken as a whole. What does Luke 14:26 say? Please consider the whole Bible. Jesus did not deceive anyone but to understand Jesus we must look at all He taught.
  12. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    Thank you. I agree. Did i give a different statement? True faith manifests itself. Help me out with what i said that untrue.
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    Not By Works

    Led by the Spirit on this post?
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    Not By Works

    I am sorry, but scripturally that is not true. it is God's will that none be lost, but God's will is not always done on this earth. What Satan has convinced the world of is that once you accept Jesus Christ, you can live anyway you want. Respectfully, you feed this concept and so we have...
  15. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    I will answer when i return. The short answer is God does not lie. The long answer is we must receive God's promises through faith,
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    Not By Works

    Amen on Hebrews 11: i think that makes, not conflicts with what i say. When we are committed to actually listen to the Holy Spirit He leads us to act faithfully. But as a part of the book, i looked at Christian behavior based on a variety of surveys of Christians; you would be surprised. We...
  17. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    So you now you agree it is talking about salvation because it is talking about those sanctified by the blood of Christ?
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    Not By Works

    That is a human metaphor, not scripture. the Bible explicitly states that "For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God." (or true sons of God) Led means to follow. We have the choice to follow or refuse to follow as stated and grieve or quench the Holy Spirit. Many many...
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    Not By Works

    oh yes it is. they have been sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ according to the passage. it is talking about people who continue to sin after accepting Jesus Christ. their destiny is also referred to in the passage......read the entire passage to get the context.
  20. ReturnToGod

    Not By Works

    Careful. You have the choice whether you live in sin or not. God has granted you that free will. Scripture says you can grieve and quench the Holy Spirit. I am uncomfortable with the idea that we "maintain" salvation so perhaps clarify for me. Are you saying a person who has accepted Jesus...