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Well I certainly believe my Shepherd when He teaches about election and predestination.

I believe in the “P”. The perseverance of the saints! "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one...

I believe in the “I”. Grace IS irresistible! For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9

I don’t believe in the “L” (limited atonement) God died for the whole wide world! "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that...

I don’t believe in the “U”. I don’t believe election is unconditional; I believe it’s conditional. God knew us in the age before this one and knows each one of us intimately (foreknowledge). And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called...

@Charlie_2024 I’ll start with the “T”. I believe in total depravity (outside of the redemption found in Christ Jesus). Why? …because the Bible tells me so. As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. They have all...

How about Christians who believe in election and predestination?

God said it. No reference to a man saying it (Calvin or Armenius).

Off topic

I will take another look at that tulip chart and come back with discussion of the various topics later.

okay—as long as God’s Word is understood in context and correctly.

I understand your last sentence; however the rest is about what a man says and not what God says. Right?

presuming again

Discuss a topic calmly without being condescending, please.

Why not discuss topics instead of acronyms?

Why not discuss topics instead of people?

If those who claim to be Calvinists Well as long as you praise Jesus Christ and only admire Calvin (if you must), you’d be better off with your audience. It’s Jesus who died for you, not Calvin. Stop judging folks according to whether or not they sound like they may or may not be Calvinist...

Welcome, Louie.

Then God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him, saying: "And as for Me, behold, I establish My covenant with you and with your descendants after you, "and with every living creature that is with you: the birds, the cattle, and every beast of the earth with you, of all that go out of the ark...

Remember this guy? https://christianchat.com/threads/the-end-times-who-is-the-beast-and-the-antichrist.212877/post-5183291