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lol. Talk about a long windead rant that means nothing THEY WERE NEVER OF US. You claim they were saved, and they willingly gave it up The apostle John says you are wrong. I will go with John.

Nope My case is that God is omniscient, He knows who has true faith and who does not. And he will nto save anyone he knows will walk away because they lack faith. But you want to serve self not god. Then deny it Get real man.. trust God not yourself

I rest my case.

No i will not. Because I am not condemned. Why? Because I looked to the cross. And recieved his salvation. Based on his work not mine Amen, you’re right it is. I will be at the bema seat. NOT the great white. Which one will you be at? Well thank you for doing what so many do. And assuming...

Lol My comment stil stands. You are against OSAS. Or more importantly against the fact that God saves a person completely when he saves them, they can not lose what God has given them. so if you deny thi, you are trusting self. Not God.. Even if it is the fact that you trust that you will not...

Yes it is. Sader yet is to say He walked off the path because it was Gods soverign will

I will be be their bud. I placed my eternity in the hands of a loving God. You’re the one pumping your chest my friend. I became like the tax collector. I am sick of hearing people pump themselves up as special and condemning others to hell when God never gave them a chance. And claiming God is...

Warning me against what? Trusting God? Listen. John said they were never of us, that means they were never saved. to use this passage to support that eternal security in Christ or OSAS is false. Is just plain false. You can not use it. Because the people who left never had true faith.. they...

But I know that no matter I do. God will be with me. thats my assurance. but go ahead and place your faith in self. I will not stop you

Ahh, A typical calvinist know it all.. You read scripture and those who appose you do not. I got it.. Pump your chest little man. Your nothing Yeah whatever, You can have your God. Your God does not exist. You will not like it when you meet my God You can tell him why you hated him so much you...

Your argument dies when we chose to do evil. Unless you claim God planned his way to do evil.

Salvation is by faith. Not mere belief. I have assurance because I do trust God to keep his word. I know I have eternal life. I am not trying to earn it, and I know God will nto fail. Many believe, but even demons believe yet tremble No. Because they were still never saved, they did not lose...

You cause John to contradict himself 1. John said those who departed were never saved. 2. John says to make sure persevere. because you could lose salvation. Which means you can depart and have at one time been part of us. sorry man, Your math does not work.

It is a warning, To make sure your faith was real. It still remains. if they departed from us, they were never of us. Not everyone that goes to church is born again. There are many people who may think they are saved. or who are just there for the companionship and blessings we in the church...

They went out from us Its not a warning, it is to encourage the people who lost their friends who left that they were never of us. A perso who was never of us is not saved, they never were. They in no way shape or form make your point.

so God had hitler kill those millions of Jews. its Gods fault not Hitlers. people just amaze me how they have a belief system yet fail to think it through and just take it as gospel truth.

Gods love predates creation

59 years young. And I am sick of your rediculous doctrine of fatalism denying Gods true love and savation by grace through faith. i accept it quite well. i just reject your interpretation of what he taught.

Um no It says they were antichrist.. and they did nto lose salvation they never had it You also skipped 2 verses 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is...

No one who truly understood the gospel. and truly understood and became a tax collector and was born by God would willingly deny he even existed and tuen to unbelief. so we can overpower God. ok.. so salvation is based on works. works of us staying in faith.. which takes our own power. No...