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I don't like being called "foolish", especially when I quoted a Bible Scripture given directly by Lord Jesus Christ. Those in Christ need to stand up for theirselves instead of trying to soothsay to keep from offending those who need correcting.

John means what what he said, the devil sinned from the "beginning", meaning the very 1st sin, ever. Lucifer (his name before he rebelled) is actually the author of sin, and was the first one to commit sin. The result of sin as written, is death. Thus the power of death was assigned to the...

Hardly. The context of that 2 Thess.2 Scripture regarding Greek apostasia is involving the coming of the "man of sin" exalting himself in place of God, and over all that is called God, or that is worshiped. Apostle Paul even calls that event the "strong delusion" later in that Chapter. That...

Come on folks, actually read and understand the Scripture CONTEXT. Using common sense, just what is the subject? Why jump immediately to ideas of water baptism when the context is pointing to flesh birth in the water of woman's womb? John 3:3-8 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily...

I don't care if you claim to have been born with a Bible in your hands, you reveal that you actually don't know what The Bible teaches by what Jesus Himself showed with His coming to gather His Church AFTER... the tribulation, like He said... Matt 24:29-31 29 Immediately after the tribulation...

That's actually an attitude set for disaster. The reason is because God's Word warns us many times about the coming of a false-Messiah that will exalt himself as God with the power of miracles to fool the whole world into thinking he is God. So if you didn't listen to Lord Jesus and His...

Sorry, but that idea is NOT about the future time of "great tribulation" that will be a time on earth that has never been the like before, nor ever will be again... Dan 12:1 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there...

Sounds like you fail to understand what a 'symbol' is. A symbol is used to represent... something literal. So you've only gone around in circles with your attempt to explain that concept away. In the KJV, the translators used the 'symbol' of a "week" to represent each period of 'seven' in the...

(Continued...) Thus the "great tribulation" will be truly great, affecting 2 types of folks in two ways: 1. for those who will be deceived by the false-Messiah that comes first prior to Jesus' coming to gather His Church. 2. for those of us who stand in Jesus Christ, and are aware that...

What is it then, that will make the coming "great tribulation" a time of tribulation? 1. Jesus showed all war (militaries fighting each other) will have stopped, which means a time of one-world peace (Matt.24:6; Rev.13:4). 2. Apostle Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5 marked the future great...

The warning against the false pre-trib rapture theory still must go out, whether the deceived will listen or not.

What actually is... the Biblical idea of "great tribulation" going to be about?? Once again you are only describing the SAME... event, and not two separate times of Christ's coming. Per the Zechariah 9:9-10 prophecy about Jesus' coming, it mentions ONLY TWO comings, His 1st coming to die on...

Your list is what is misleading, and I gave some strong clues with the first couple of examples. I'm not going to waste my time going through the whole list, when it's easy to know Biblically the first couple of items aren't even correct per Bible Scripture. To the Biblical unstudied, that list...

Yes, the time of "great tribulation" is about the latter half of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week" of 7 years of two separate 1260 day periods. None of that changes what I showed in my posts. As a matter of fact, my reference to God's two witnesses in Rev.11 points to that latter 1260 day half...

That list is NOT accurate, and I think we've been over this before. The second coming is the SAME event of Jesus future coming in the clouds to gather His Church. If one is speaking of a car painted white on the outside, but is described with having a black interior, we don't treat that to...

Yes, and that future event happens after the tribulation, like Jesus showed in the Mark 13:24-27 version of His Olivet discourse. Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4 covered the same gathering events that Jesus showed in His Olivet discourse of Matt.24 and Mark 13. The Matt.24 example is about Jesus'...

No, that is not what Apostle Paul taught in 2 Thessalonians 2. Paul taught that the "man of sin" must appear FIRST, and the 2 Thess.2:8 confirms Jesus comes afterwards to destroy that false one... 2 Thess 2:8 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit...

Well, no, The Bible does not... teach a pre-tribulational rapture. My proof is what Jesus said in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27. You should read it sometime instead of just regurgitating what men's doctrines say.

Irrelevant, since I simply quoted what Jesus Himself said in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 that His coming will be... AFTER... the tribulation! Some here obviously ARE OFFENDED by what my Lord Jesus Christ said there in those Bible Scriptures! Those who are offended by what He said there...

I don't need... to check out any such Pre-trib rapture threads, I have God's written Word as evidence, which I quoted as proof, not your pop fantasy from men's doctrines.