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That's not what the apostle said. He said if these things are increasing in you, you're doing well. …7and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 8For if you possess these qualities and continue to grow in them, they will keep you from being ineffective and...

Thank you for those definitions. It's interesting to me because I look at the verse more like when paul was talking about marriage between a woman and a man and then he said he was speaking about Christ and the church. He was really speaking about the spirit of the matter. So when you look at...

It's nice to agree with you on something for the first time, ralph! :p

Yes. And not to mention the fact that if you definitively state all tongues spoken today are 100% counterfeit, you can't know that unless you've visited every gathering on earth!

And actually, the part where her husband (Hinn) says he's very drunk and starts falling all over the place and his boys have to keep catching him, and they're all laughing - could also almost convince me that no men should ever preach either! :LOL:

It's odd to me to hear someone say they know for a fact that the Holy Spirit never manifests anymore. Or that He never manifests in certain ways anymore. It's quite bizarre when you think about it.

I disagree. I don't think Hinn has healed anyone. EVER! I think he fakes the gifts.

I was joking, kind of along the lines of...thou almost persuadest me Mrs. Hinn....:p

This made me laugh so hard! When you first said you thought it was given you to see it so you wouldn't bash tongues, my first thought was: and knowing what I do of ralph, he would have! :LOL:

To one is given the gift/manifestation of speaking in various tongues. To another is given/gifted/manifested to interpret various tongues.

I agree.

I disagree. One should speak and another interpret. Otherwise, you should just speak it once in the language of the gathering, not make them sit through you speaking it once when they don't understand as you edify yourself and then make them sit a second time as you give the interpretation. I...

“To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you...

And that is precisely why paul said if there was no one present to interpret (by either the gift of interpretation of various tongues, or by someone present who actually spoke that tongue), then you were to remain silent in the gathering. Because you certainly aren't building anyone up if no one...

I didn't know that you were being a jerk!

Okay...so, to the best of my knowledge, God has not given me revelation to speak in various tongues.

I disagree that ALL men are counterfeiting. I haven't attended every gathering in the United States, so I can't make that statement. I WILL, however, agree that we are seeing more counterfeits on tv than we are the authentic.

Well, why haven't you?

I posted about it to explain as best I could. If one has never experienced it, they can't understand. Agreed.

As I said to another poster, I am quite glad that you have done many great miracles and have healed many people. My argument does not take away from my joy that He has manifested great miracles and healings through you personally.