Search results

  1. A

    Will There Be Sex in Heaven?

    Thinking about it is ok. Let's think about it. It has nothing to do with sex being bad. Some things are designed for this life only not for the resurrection and the world to come. The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are a good thing. They are spiritual even. And yet they end when that which is...
  2. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Are you yelling at me? Say it don't Spray it. :) I don't think you should be showing people what is NOT WRITTEN. If we an focus on what IS WRITTEN we don't need to explain to people what is NOT WRITTEN. I listed verses in another post and you cannot say that I did not give you scriptures...
  3. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    So you desire to tell people that these verses "DONT SAY..." something. And you feel that you cannot just let the person read them for what they DO SAY? That is just another form of rewriting them. If you just say them in their original context and don't tell people what they DONT SAY, you...
  4. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    You ask for scriptures. Why don't we try something new. I am listing some scriptures. What would happen if I did not comment on them and you did not either. I mean just resist the urge to rewrite these verses. I won't explain them and you don't either. Let everyone read them and...
  5. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    I have no idea what you are talking about. I was telling Magenta that I believe in a newly created earth not a burned over one. Nothing was said about unrighteous people. It was not part of my point.
  6. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    How about this? Resist the urge to rewrite these verses. I won't explain them and you don't either. Problem solved. Matthew 25:46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Jude 1:7 Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities...
  7. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    I think you are open to changing your mind when you are certain you have the correct interpretation and so I am not going to push it but I will just say that if you look up all those references to destroy and destruction there are plenty of them that refer to ruin, as in a sorry state of affairs...
  8. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Matthew 25:46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
  9. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    They were punished by man and that punishment had an end. But that death sentence was not eternal punishment. No one ever said in the sentencing that they were to be eternally punished with execution. That does not make sense and not how we use the word in English. From the perspective of...
  10. A

    Will There Be Sex in Heaven?

    You already quoted the scripture. Marriage is only a temporal earthly relationship. We don't continue it in heaven. We don't have sex. Remember the background of the verse was which one of the seven men would have the widow as wife in heaven. The answer was none of them. There won't be...
  11. A

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    The warning was to His disciples. Be on your guard. Don't let this happen to you. If you fall away into the partying, carousing, drunken life style and that day comes, it will be like a trap a day of destruction and judgment and all those in the world who were not ready for it will suffer...
  12. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    I have a different opinion of what happened in this thread. Plenty of people presented scriptures about souls having eternal torment. And eternal torment and punishment won the debate once again. There were many scriptures given and sound hermeneutics that exposed annihilationism as faulty...
  13. A

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    “Be on your guard, so that your minds are not dulled from carousing, drunkenness, and worries of life, or that day will come on you unexpectedly like a trap." Luke 21:34
  14. A

    Can I Be a Christian if I Occasionally Smoke Cigarettes

    I would answer with this scripture... Rom 14:23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. If you are having questions about "being a Christian" and doing anything you should put that thing far...
  15. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    You say that you can punish dead people. The entire rest of the English speaking world says that you can't punish dead people. If they are dead and unawares you can't do anything to them that would be called punishing them. If they were executed for a crime that would be their punishment...
  16. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Yes it requires that the subject being punished be alive to know about it. No one ever says we are punishing the dead criminal by not mowing his grave. That would be nonsense. We are not punishing him, if he is not aware of it. We might be disrespecting his memory or insulting his grave...
  17. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    You are needing to constantly attempt to say things that don't make sense in order to support your ideas that contradict the plain meaning of the scriptures. You should be aware that we are all noticing that. When you have to do that over and over again for various scriptures it is a sign...
  18. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Of course it is figurative. We don't know what it looks like exactly. The fire, the worms, the smoke, they are all other worldly. The bodies that the wicked are raised with that are cast into the Lake of Fire are other worldly. There is every reason to think they can suffer forever without...
  19. A

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Yes it is true that the smoke of the wicked of Edom will ascend forever and ever. There is an eternal judgment that is promised to Edom that is beyond the natural condition of her ancient towns. So it is true that her smoke ascends forever because the souls of the wicked of Edom and those who...