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  1. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    These events unfold one upon the other. Thus while the nations are gathering their armies to Armageddon,.... `And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.`...
  2. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    Men are Scorched. Those who have taken the mark of the beast now have terrible sores on their bodies. The sea and waters, (rivers, streams etc) have become bloodied through fish and people dying. The waters would be foul and polluted and with the great heat following, the pain people would...
  3. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    `Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the 7 angels, “Go & pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.” (Rev. 16: 1) The Malignant sores...
  4. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    I agree with much what you say FG. Yes the Lord is currently on the Father`s throne. Now we know that is not a seat where they are `sitting,` but for us to understand the Godhead`s authority and power over all they made. We know that the Father and Son are equal, in unity and of the same mind...
  5. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Hi Freegrace2, Yes I`ll step up to the plate to bat for pre-trib. First let me clarify that I dodn`t believe in men becoming female, (bride/wife). It is a symbol of God`s relationship with Israel and all through the OT. So let`s just look at `Does the Body of Christ go to the highest heaven...
  6. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    The 7 Bowls of God`s Wrath. The song of Moses says that `He will avenge the blood of His servants....` (Deut. 32: 43) And His judgment is `just & true.` (Rev. 15: 3) Thus we see that from the `Holy of Holies,` in the heavenly sanctuary comes forth the last judgments...
  7. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    The Judgments. We are now shown the details of this judgment that was proclaimed. (Ch. 14: 7)This will be the final judgments in the tribulation upon rebellious mankind. These 7 plagues will complete God`s wrath. They are described as `great and marvellous,` meaning that...
  8. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    The Harvest. An angel is now shown coming out of the temple in heaven with another sickle. This picture shows that the judgment is from the Father. Another angel is then shown coming out from the altar, which indicates Christ`s great sacrifice (altar) and the execution of the judgments (fire)...
  9. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    The Judge. God the Father and the Holy Spirit declare the blessing upon those who do not follow the `beast.` Though they die, because they trust in God they will have eternal life. `Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep...
  10. Marilyn

    Revelation: Vision 4: Christ the Judge & Maker of All things New.

    THE HARVEST (Rev. 14: 6 – 20) We are now shown the great ingathering of the harvest: those to life and those to death. Three angels go forth bringing proclamations of the judgments to come. The 3 Proclamations Life - God`s hand of mercy is still stretched out to those who...
  11. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Hi RS, I agree that we receive the promise of the SPIRIT. (Gal. 3: 14) and `heirs` as sons. (Gal. 4: 7) However it does not say there specifically what we are `heir` to. We need specific scriptures to show that. `To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne as I also overcame...
  12. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Hi Pilgrimshope, All great scriptures there, and we both believe them. The point that I would have you consider is that we all receive the promise of the Spirit and are heirs, however what we are heir to is in different realms of God`s great kingdom. Please let me show you what I see God`s word...
  13. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Getting there.... Our inheritance is even higher. Note what I said in my previous post. The city was promised to the OT saints (Heb. 11: 16) NOT us, the Body of Christ. Our inheritance is in the highest with Christ on His seat of authority. (Rev. 3: 21) Note: His authority (represented by...
  14. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Hi RS, Yes I agree about the new earth. However the city was promised to the OT saints (Heb. 11: 16) NOT us, the Body of Christ. Our inheritance is in the highest with Christ on His seat of authority. (Rev. 3: 21) Note: His authority (represented by `throne,`) is in all of God`s great kingdom...
  15. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    ``You have come to MOUNT ZION.....to God.....to Jesus...` (Heb. 12: 22 - 24) The mount is symbolic of rulership. And you are so right the Mount, seat of the Lord`s ruler does NOT descend.
  16. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Sorry I wasn`t clearer. The part in bold saying we will be ON the New earth. Have you scriptures for that?
  17. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Hi Pilgrimshope, Some excellent quetions there and I can see you are thinking very well. So.....who are these different ones. 1. The Great multitude. God`s word tell us they are from all the nations of the world and come out of the great tribulation. (Rev. 7: 9 - 17) I think they died of heat...
  18. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    Thank you for such a good conversation. Hope to chat again soon. regards, Marilyn.
  19. Marilyn

    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    I see it slightly different. God`s great kingdom is all He created. And in every realm He is restoring rulership. We, the Body of Christ will reign with Christ on His throne in the highest. The other realms have rulership under Christ too.