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  1. Lamar

    Which works justify?

    Just answer the question. It's a fair question. Your response shows a unwillingness to address the issue. I have no issue with the question. The verses state that Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son was the work that led to his justification. The verses state that Rehab's act of...
  2. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Why is the possibly of salvation being revoked mean that someone is not saved???
  3. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Gobbledygook. Simply gobbledygook.
  4. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    You are surmising that the act of returning to the father was merit. You are not quoting merit you are surmising merit. Merit is not in your example. Can you not see the difference?
  5. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Do you honestly think people cannot see what you are doing??? That was not my question. Here is the question; If a person ends up not saved on judgement day does that mean that the person was never saved? Yes or No? Stop changing the question and simply answer it. What are you afraid of?
  6. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    If you mean apostasy by failing then yes you can lose your salvation.
  7. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I would ask you to quote an example but you are the one who does not understand the difference between quoting and surmising.
  8. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Thank you. Your feeble answer proves my point.
  9. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    No he does not need to explain because he never made such a claim. You are being absurd with these claims. And that goes for Heishere as well.
  10. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    You: "If they in the end can end up not saved, then they are not saved are they?" Do you think people cannot see through your sidestepping? If a person ends up not saved on judgement day does that mean that the person was never saved? Yes or No? Just be honest.
  11. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    "Biblical defenition" ??? Apostasy has nothing to do with "truth". It is simply the betrayal of a faith or other belief system. You are either special or a rather dishonest poster. BTW, what is a biblical definition of apostasy? I can't wait to here this.
  12. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    "very saved"??? Why don't you just let your yes be yes and your no be no?
  13. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Really? This is your answer? Obtuse much?
  14. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    ??? What you wrote has no bearing on my post. The servant still had his forgiveness revoked. The son was still without his benefits until he acted properly toward his father. You are simply grasping at straws. I suspect you know this.
  15. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    I would suggest you read the Parables of the Unforgiving Servant and the Prodigal Son. Both teach the heart of God on these issues. The unforgiving servant lost the forgiveness that was freely given to him by the grace of the Master (God). The prodigal son lost the benefits freely given to him...
  16. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Once again, no one has made this claim. You are attempting to muddy the water with your "achieve salvation" strawman. No one is claiming to earn salvation. Neither you or me. Obedience does not equal earning and this is the sin that you are lodging against many here. I recently wrote a...
  17. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    What a misleading and dishonest question. "we have to achieve salvation because it is not secure"??? No one here made such a claim.
  18. Lamar

    A misconception of obedience

    "Pronouns" ??? What post are you replying to???
  19. Lamar

    A misconception of obedience

    You are fooling no one. It is you who has claimed to know your fate on judgement day. It is you who has claimed to know how this knowledge is attained. No one can "prove your salvation" whether to ourselves or others. Your line of thinking is flawed on this subject.
  20. Lamar

    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Matt 18: 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. Again, Could he pay his debt? Are you special?