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I don’t think you’re reading the entire conversation I’m having with this particular individual.

Solomons sins were so great it played a major role in the kingdom splitting into two. But God kept his promise that Davids line would still sit on the throne. Solomon was a very remorseful man, but his past actions had future impacts that last generations.

Yes he did. I thought that. Of course he regretted a lot of that and wrote Ecclesiastes.

I think Paul is clear about what a healthy sexual relationship is between a husband and wife. Don’t deny each other the pleasure of it. Of course there is other factors that come into play other than then the physical aspects; husband love your wives and wives respect your husbands. When these...

You rely on your owe works. Again, you’re taking Paul out of context. I think you know you’re wrong because other scripture I have given you simply don’t acknowledge it.

No, you’re saying Christ finished work was not whole. We need to die a physical death, wait, and then God will redeem. Meanwhile back on Earth, it’s up to us to hold the faith until the resurrection. That’s basically what you’re saying. That’s completely unbiblical.

Do you know what the word imputed means? Do you know what Paul is saying when he states Christ actions are imputed unto believers? Jesus died and rose. The actions have already been done. We don’t need to die and be risen in order to have salvation.

Of course it is. Your application of it though is misconstrued and amounts to false teaching. You are doing exactly what you claim to be against.

What’s up with all the indirect answers?

Do you really I understand what you’re reading? Yeah, if Christ wasn’t risen, our faith futile and essentially fake. Those passages are pretty straightforward.

And this isn’t an attempt to demean you or anything like that. This goes to the heart of what Christianity is and why it differs from all other faiths. This not something that should be taught on haphazardly

Of course you have no evidence to back that up. That is purely subjective. Can you name prominent figure that believes salvation occurs when the resurrection does?

At the time of Clement, there really wasn’t any traditions considering is was during the apostolic age(or immediately there after). Are you the only one that has this knowledge?

Reading is one thing, comprehension is another. I have to do my research as well given whatever the subject is, and after 20 years of reading scripture over and over, no where does that indicate what you are proposing. God is not buy now and pay later. Go back to the early writers of the church...

I completely agree. Some are content with notion of “I’m in”. That’s a dangerous position to take. Magenta posted the scripture I was thinking of.

Actually my niece FaceTimed me so I hit post by accident before I was finished. Don’t ASSUME. Lol This conversation has gotten goofy for me. I think you simply what to argue and not have an intelligent dialogue. What a shame given the topic.

I’m assuming because people saw the word “Sex”. That has a tendency to get people jaw jacking.

So Jesus is dangling a carrot an So does Jesus just dangle a carrot? I’m not following you.

Yes, he did say that. He was indicating that sanctification is like a long marathon. It pretty much takes our entire earthly life. Treat it like you’re running for the ultimate prize. He is not advocating a works based salvation. If you believe that, you might as well throw out 80% of...

Ahh no. Paul disagrees and so do I: But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.” So again, what do you do to ensure you’re in Gods good grace? You have to have...