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Yes. But he also said that the "removal" of the commas effects (changes) the meaning. This assumes the commas were in the original. I question that assumption. Where are the supporting scriptures for the claim that water baptism ALONE is for the remission of sins?

Right. Were the commas in the original? (nope) What are the supporting scriptures for the claim that water baptism ALONE is for the remission of sins?

Addendum to previous post. Obviously the Cessatioists will argue that there is no mention of tongues and that this could only be administered by the original Apostles of whom they are no more. However as we read on we see this refuted. - What did Simon see as evidence? - What reason did...

I tried to introduce some discussion about the NT pattern of two baptisms. No takers. In the book of the Acts we see a pattern of two baptisms: 1) Water baptism (followed by) 2) The baptism with the Holy Spirit. (typically administered by the laying on of hands) Not necessarily in that...

That's the point they seem to miss in I Cor.13. -- lol Where's the love in Cessationism?

He seems to be stuck on this idea that we are promoting extrabilical revelation. Which is a complete misrepresentation of the Holy Spirit manifestation of prophecy. 1 Corinthians 14:3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. 1...

Those are great points. It should also be noted that the list makes a distinction between prophets, pastors and teachers. (separate offices) Cessationists argue that prophecy means preaching now. That position disagrees with Eph.11. Which is what you were saying. And I agree. Thanks...

Thanks. I'm not sure what the rules are, so I play in the middle of the playground. The other kids play right up to the fence. -- lol I appreciate the observations. I didn't realize I was playing nice. No need to be nasty, I guess. With encouragement like that I may keep up the good work...

Who is claiming that gifts are more important than salvation? (no one)

Yes. Like leaving a calling card. I refer to it as an SBD. (silent but deadly)

Right. So stop it with this sign gifts stuff.

Do you make a noise when you break wind? If so, what does it mean?

How many times do we have to tell you that we are not using the manifestations of the Holy Spirit for confirmation? We are using them be cause we are already convinced. As opposed to you who is not there yet.

Since when is speaking a language you learned to speak (physical natural ability) in a language class equal to the manifestation of the Holy Spirit (spiritual supernatural ability) called tongues? You seem to have a complete disconnect about the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Obey this. 1...

If it's a sin to "despise prophesying", I would say you are in BIG trouble.

Wow! Thank you. I was very encouraged by your reply to the question about reconciling to 1 Cor 13:8 I had forgotten about that scripture. (see below) What a treasure to find. The Apostle OBVIOUSLY anticipates the use of ALL the spiritual gifts UNTIL the return of Christ. That is the PERFECT...

We need to be careful with the term "full gospel". It is an affront to the rest of the body of Christ. What does it say about them? Someone asked me once if I went to full gospel church. I replied, "No, it's a half-gospel church." You should have seen the surprised look I got. --- lol I...

From my perspective, the misuse of 1 Cor 13:8 is the problem. Has knowledge passed away? Is the Holy Spirit no longer manifesting in believers? 1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is...

Right. This is not hard to understand. It goes without saying. So the purpose seems more poetic, or idiomatic, than informational. That's my point.

Remove? Remove the comma? Who put it there in the first place?