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  1. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Is the flaw more than just the missappropriation of pronouns, or is there more to it?
  2. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Sorry, Lamar. I have no need or desire or ability to prove my salvation to you or to anyone else, and I have not tried to do so using the verses I quoted. What I have tried to do is to share verses with you that would lead you to be introspective about your own salvation so that you can determin...
  3. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Jesus is not wicked. When we look inside our new hearts and see that He is in there, it confirms that we have passed from death to life. If this were not the case, there would be no need to test ourselves or examine ourselves to determin if He is in there. Here's another verse that speaks about...
  4. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    The Bible has many verses concerning assurance of salvation. Every one of them includes the premise that the determination of one's salvation can only be made by the individual and not by other people. Here is one example... Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test...
  5. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Reminds me of the song in Sound of Music that has the line that goes something like "I have confidence in confidence I have". But that's not how any of this works. Even though believing in Jesus is required for salvation, believing does not save anyone. God saves people. He does it by Himself...
  6. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    The wording of 1 John 5:13 supports your conclusion. In it, John says he wrote what he wrote in order that (i.e., for the very purpose that) saved people can process what He said and then come to the conclusion that they curently possess eternal life. So, if a saved person is unsure they possess...
  7. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    This is as close as an ignored person can get to asking him directly.
  8. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    True. Walking in the Spirit requires faith because you must believe He's there, hear what He says, and trust that what He says is the right thing to do.
  9. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Wow! Now that's a surprising post. And it is remarkably humble, thankful, respectful, and insightful. Makes me wonder how the other posts fit into this same reality.
  10. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. (Heb 11:6) How is it possible to think faith is necessary to please God and to think faith is to be avoided because it is works? That...
  11. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    I do not understand what must transpire in a person's theological training to cause them to confuse faith and works.
  12. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    In post 51 I said: We are saved by grace through faith. He determined beforehand to save everyone who trusts in Christ's sacrifice on the cross as remission for their sins. I was just paraphrasing 1 Corinthians 1:21 which says, For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not...
  13. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    The disdain shown here answers the question about why there is no agreement or even acknowledgement of our need for God's forgiveness.
  14. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    We are saved by grace through faith. He determined beforehand to save everyone who trusts in Christ's sacrifice on the cross as remission for their sins.
  15. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Saying obedience is good as far as it goes, but it can't take a person over the finish line is not a straw man. He said, "we are simply trusting in God to save us as we obey Him", "When we follow God's commands, He saves us", and "He has graciously given us commands which save" to name a few...
  16. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    I thought you were ignoring me.
  17. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    I don't blame you. I ignore people who preach sinless perfection.
  18. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Did you read what I said? How is disobedience to God overcome? Is it not through the forgiveness that Jesus offers? If so, how can those who's sins are forgiven think their rightness with God is through their obedience? That is the part that is confusing to me. The only thing I can think of that...
  19. NewLifeInChrist

    A misconception of obedience

    Disobedience not forgiven = condemnation, and Disobedience = personal responsibility Actually, "works of the law" is mentioned only one time in Romans (Ro 9:32). It is a hallmark of Galatians however, being mentioned there six times. And althought there are doctrinal parellels in Romans and...