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Is that really necessary? This is three in one post and counting.

Is that really necessary? To infer that someone else's religion is from the deceiver (Satan)?

Is that really necessary? To call someone else's view an insidious lie.

I disagree. An accurate view of Jesus is very important. He was more than just a prophet and healer. (as you know)

False doctrines were popping up faster than weeds in a corn field. They need a standard to measure by. You need to remember that they didn't have all the tools we have today. They didn't even have a New Testament until they put one together. That was part of the standardization process.

Yes, saved by faith. But faith in what, or whom?

Exactly! Thank you. Romans 16:25-26 Now to him who is able to establish you in accordance with my gospel, the message I proclaim about Jesus Christ, in keeping with the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, 26 but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the...

I see. So your job is to post the "truth" and my job is to read it and accept it without reservation? Is that how this is supposed to work? (nope)

No, your assertions about them seem ignorant. While it is true that the Patriarchs and Prophets were looking forward to what was being promised, they had no idea what it was. If it was that obvious, then why didn't the Israelites welcome their messiah when he arrived? The NT record shows that...

As I understand it, the Councils fulfilled a genuine need in the church. There was no systematic theology back then. They needed to set a standard. And that standard was biblically based. In fact, there was no New Testament until they compiled and canonized it. We owe them a debt of gratitude...

@dcontroversal and @preacher4truth are happy to give me a Thumbs-Down vote on this. Does that mean they ARE the source of truth? Or, what do they mean to say? While they hide behind their Thumbs-Down votes.

Do you expect to see the Patriarchs in heaven? If so, explain how they got there based on your view. Did they "accept the Gospel" before they died?

That has nothing to do with the sinful state in which we were born. Anyone born in Adam's race is born into sin. Besides, the verse you quoted says that "sin revived". Which means it was inherent. Sin didn't show up, it was woken up.

Since when are you the source for truth?

What makes a doctrine essential? If we answer that question, then nonessentials are everything else. I would say essential to salvation would be the most essential. Let's run your list through this question. * God created everything. --- essential for salvation? No. * Every man besides Jesus...

So, let's take stock of all the categories that will be in heaven. - Believers in Christ - Children of a young age (supposed innocents) - The biblical Patriarchs I would add more to this group, but you can see that there are more than just the believers in Christ.

Really just two kinds from my perspective. The salivation of our soul is not at question. God's salvation from situations is the other one. Here are some scriptures. These are probably what dc is referring to. 2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my...

Explain this scripture from your point of view. Romans 2:14-15 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their...

More evidence piling up to support the idea that God is the final judge.

There is more than one kind of salvation. Was he talking about the salvation of his soul? Eternal life?