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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    On what basis were they already saved before Christ said, "It is finished."? I'm not questioning that they were, just asking on what basis.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    There we go. Abraham is the father of faith. Salvation was brought forward from the OT. Not through Moses, but through Abraham. Just because you and I do not always agree is no reason to think I am against the truth. (which has many definitions, I suppose) And I certainly do not want to...
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Now you arguing on my side. Thanks. lol There we go. To have a relationship with God is to have a relationship with Jesus. Is that not salvation? John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Yes, that's how it turned out. But I am asking about all the other Cornelius' out there that never hear the gospel? The ones that "fear" God and are devout. And what about the Faith chapter hall of fame? (Heb.11) How many are "Christians"? (none)
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Anyone born in Adam's race is born into sin. We are sinners at birth. At conception even. As I understand it. Sin entered the world through one man. (Rom.5:12) The children in the passage you quoted were innocent of the transgressions of the parents who were prohibited to entre the promised land.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    That's why I said some may be surprised that their name is written in the book. Is Moses in the book? Abraham? The Prophets? David? Did any of them receive Jesus before they died? What about those Christ preached to when he descended to the heart of the earth? Preaching in Hades? Saved...
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    More than one way then. Okay, thanks.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Did Moses have a relationship with God? Abraham? (shall I continue?) Did either of them know Jesus before they died? Where did they end up? Not biblical? Read it again. Romans 2:14-15 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law...
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    We are all born into sin. We confirm it by sinning. The crying infant shows their true nature.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    No. They are saved by a relationship with God, just as we are. They just happen to not have the priviledges that we had in being raised in a Christian home. Romans 2:14-15 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves...
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    That wasn't the question. You said, "I don't believe that....NO ONE other than possibly children who die early... " - dc I asked, "Why?"
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    No, I'm not making any provision for those who reject Christ. Nor do I make provision for those who embrace Universalism. The only guaranteed way to eternal life is through Christ. Everyone else will stand in judgment. However, the final decision is up to God. That is all I am saying. You...
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    You misspelled tiger. lol
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Romans 2:14-15 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and...
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    There we go. A provision for children. Anyone else? Do you agree that God has the final say in each individual case?
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Thank you. Next question. If Cornelius had met an untimely end and never heard the gospel, how do you think God would judge him? There was clearly a relationship with God there.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    Some may be surprised that their name is written in the book. Wondering who Jesus even is.
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    God still has the right to extend mercy in any case, correct?
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    Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

    No other way, or no other guaranteed way?