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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    I don’t know why it was translated that way. When you look at the definitions of the Greek words, the CJB translation appears to be more accurate. It takes the emphasis away from the immersion and links repentance to forgiveness of sins. Think about Luke 24:47. “Then he said to them, “These...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    This is how a Messianic Jewish Theologian translated Acts 2:38. Notice he doesn’t see a water immersion. The immersion is into forgiveness of sins. “Kefa answered them, “Turn from sin, return to God, and each of you be immersed on the authority of Yeshua the Messiah into forgiveness of your...
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    Is repentance necessary for forgiveness?

    Think about this: “To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:43‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/59/act.10.43.esv Peter says here that everyone who believes in Jesus receives forgiveness of sins. He also...
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    How We Can Tell If We Possess The Agape of God

    If you use the same website and look up Strong’s #26 or agape, you will see that agapao is the root word of agape. If you also read Thayer’s Lexicon you will find mention of Romans 13:10 and John 15:13. These are examples of agape being used as the love one has for friends or neighbors. “For...
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    Justification ongoing?

    As I think about what you are saying here a few things come to my mind. “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/1jn.2.4.kjv This seems to agree with your statement. But we also have...
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    Not By Works

    Nothing here indicates that the many are exclusively Saints. Think about agape in these instances: “For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/2co.5.14.kjv Christ loved...
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    Not By Works

    I wasn’t commenting on that part of your assertion. This verse does not say that the many are working iniquity. You said this: Therefore, these "many" are saints who, through the practice of iniquity, kill their agape cold and dead, fail to endure to the end, and are not saved in the end...
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    Not By Works

    The verse does not say the many were the ones causing iniquity to abound. It also doesn’t say that saints were working iniquity. You can’t even twist it into saying that. It isn’t there. “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬...
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    Not By Works

    “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/mat.24.12.kjv This verse doesn’t say that iniquity was practiced by the many. It also doesn’t say that saints practiced iniquity. If saints didn’t practice iniquity, and...
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    Not By Works

    I am not ignoring it, see my post #151390 You said in reference to Matthew 24:12 Therefore, these "many" are saints who, through the practice of iniquity, kill their agape cold and dead, fail to endure to the end, and are not saved in the end. Jesus said in Matthew 7:23 “And then will I...
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    Not By Works

    Matthew 7:23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/mat.7.23.kjv Those who work iniquity are not saints and never knew Christ.
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    Not By Works

    “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because...
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    Not By Works

    In that post I was responding to Phoneman’s assertion that someone who climbs down or deliberately continues in sin could have once been saved. 1 John 3:6 makes it clear that that is not the case. Lets look at the context to understand the first part of the verse. “And every man that hath...
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    Not By Works

    Post #151357 explains both parts. Both are true. Christians have their hope and faith in Christ and they continuously struggle against the sin in their life. We know the Apostle Paul was a Christian. We know also that he continued to have sin in his life due to the weakness of his flesh, as...
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    Not By Works

    No of course not. I accept the whole thing. A person who continues in sin without remorse and without struggling against it has never known Christ. None of us are ever able to stop sinning completely, this is the struggle that Paul was talking about. Notice how Paul puts it. “For we know...
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    Not By Works

    “For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that...
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    Not By Works

    “Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/1jn.3.6.kjv I think this makes it clear. A person who continues in sin has never known him.
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    Not By Works

    One point here. “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/1jn.2.4.kjv This verse clearly indicates that this person does not know Christ, and was never “once saved“. So, using your...
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    How to be Born Again

    1 John 5:1 once you believe in Jesus, you have been born of God. “Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:1‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/59/1jn.5.1.esv
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    How does a person get into the ' body of Christ ' ?

    Ephesians 1:13 covers it. “In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/114/eph.1.13.nkjv The only requirements given...