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  1. K

    Why did so many people get baptized by John the Baptist?

    That's exactly what (God-sent) water baptism is for. It's a baptism OF repentance FOR the forgiveness (remission/removal) of sins. Per Mark 1:4 & Luke 3:3. Congrats(!). I didn't expect anyone to say it so quickly.
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    Why did so many people get baptized by John the Baptist?

    Thanks for the response. Please remember that John was sent to baptize BEFORE he knew about Jesus being the Messiah... So there was not an option of "trusting Jesus" as a first step. Following the Messiah AT ALL was not an option... because even John didn't know who the Messiah was (during...
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    Why did so many people get baptized by John the Baptist?

    My question IS rhetorical in nature but I am sincerely curious as to what you think. And to clarify, I'm asking about John's baptism BEFORE he knew that Jesus was the Messiah. #1 Why did they come? #2 What do you think was being accomplished each time John baptized someone? (A practice...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    Phew! That means I won't have to compliment you often. Lol
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    I appreciate your response but disagree with the idea that man was created only spirit/soul FIRST.. then obtained a physical form. Support for that being: 1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV - And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    I understand that you were asking a serious question, and presumably to support a premise that sex (and marriage?) are somehow bad, because they can be used badly and even for evil purposes. I disagree with that premise for multiple reasons but still would like to provide what you said you...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    Exactly! I was going say something similar but doubt I would have said it so succinctly. Bravo!
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    Jesus often used the aspects and concepts of earthly marriage in his teachings towards heavenly principles. Matthew 25:1-13 for example. If Jesus (the one who first stated "they neither marry nor are given in marriage") still taught marriage CONCEPTS as relatable in spiritual matters of how...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    I propose that the physical is only a parable of the spiritual, to make us aware of the components (concepts) that are involved even though some parts aren't directly correlated. Like the parable of having faith "as a grain of mustard seed"... He likely doesn't mean "the same size as" or "being...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    I wasn't frowning on people who think too fleshy about it. I was just saying that if we apply physical thinking/rules to spiritual concepts, we tend to get weirded out and can miss the point entirely (until God can get us back on topic). For example (and my apologies for the crudeness of this...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the friendly / helpful tone, and the fact that you don't overlook the different aspects of a man, (flesh and soul, plus the spiritual aspect) but think you underestimate what's going on in (especially the first part of) Genesis 2:7 Hold with me on this because...
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    Do All Religions Lead To God?

    Thanks for the reply. I don't know a lot about covenants but I don't think of baptism as a covenant, rather as more of a way OUT of a covenant... our "covenant" with sin (and death??).
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    Do All Religions Lead To God?

    I do believe DJT_47 overstepped a boundary by discounting Spirit baptism. Others discount water baptism. Some discount both God established both... Establishing one (water baptism) through John the Baptist BEFORE Jesus' earthly ministry... And establishing the other (Spirit Baptism) AFTER...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    1.. In the first instance of "be fruitful and multiply"... which was to animals... By what method do you suggest they were supposed to do this? 2.. Are you suggesting that the whales, winged fowl, etc were also created non-physical? (Forgive that I'm not addressing the second question with...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    Posting verse for reference... Genesis 1:28 KJV - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth...
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    Do All Religions Lead To God?

    I actually got a chuckle out of your post. It's rather bold to just claim "There is no baptism of the Spirit as was recorded in Acts 2 and 10 ". You're basically admitting it's scripture while stating disbelief in what those scriptures say. Are you sure that's a wise strategy?
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    BTW, Thanks for replying. (I forgot to say that on my first response) Sex and marriage and male and female are all basically parables of the true. (But hard to understand if people think too fleshy about it, especially regarding sex.). Everything natural is here to teach us how spiritual...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    I suggest that Adam and Eve were expected to use the same method of "be fruitful and multiply" that the other similarly equipped creatures were supposed to use... Sex. In other words, sex wasn't wrong. It was established by God before man sinned. But that doesn't mean everything done with...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    Yet God commanded Adam and Eve with the same words as the animals "be fruitful and multiply". Same words. Are you implying: 1. Same words = different meaning? Or 2. Are you suggesting the animals were supposed to use the same method you suggest Adam and Eve were supposed to use? Or 3...
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    Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

    One other thing... God created the whales, sea creatures and winged fowl before man, commanding those creatures to be fruitful and multiply, etc. Would those creatures be wrong or sinning if they had sex to reproduce? (Before Adam and eve even existed)