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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    What in my post gave you the impression that I disagree with any of what you've put in this post? I AGREE that's what "harpazo [G726]" means. My post was about the word "rise [G450 - 'to stand again']" instead. (I was not referring to the word "caught up / harpazo [G726 - which indeed means...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...that Jesus died and rose again G450 even so ..." The word means "to stand again". That's it. It does not carry the same meaning as "harpazo [G726 - 'caught up/away' or 'snatched'... or what we call 'raptured']". So the "we which are alive" ones (of the One Body) do not "meet" the...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...them..." (that's ONE "snatch-action"... not two!) I'm pointing out how you are butchering the grammar so as to come up with a "two-distinct-harpazo-actions"... but the text itself is saying otherwise. One group is NOT "caught up" just moments BEFORE the other group in this text... ...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...this is what the text is conveying, so you're not alone. :) But the text isn't saying that. It is saying there will be ONE snatch-action (harpazo - G726) for both components of the One Body... that is, the dead in Christ will RISE first (i.e. be bodily resurrected ['to stand again' (on the...
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    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    ...Coming TO THE EARTH Rev19 [/Matt13]--They will be IN THEIR MORTAL BODIES, and will NEVER have lifted off the earth, as we/the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY *will* have [harpazo'd / caught up [G726]--pertaining SOLELY TO "the Church which is His body," NOT to all other saints of all OTHER time periods)
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    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    ...are who will have DIED prior to "our Rapture" (but they will "rise first" [i.e. be "[bodily] resurrected"] before we'll be "caught up [G726 - harpazo] TOGETHER" [at the same time] ;) ) [by contrast, the "WHEAT" and the "TARES" will BOTH be "STILL-LIVING PERSONS" at the time-slot being...
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    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    I don't want to call it that, because Scripture itself does not. I did notice that YOU want to call it that. The "TARES" will not be "harpazo'd [G726]" (which word/action pertains SOLELY TO "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"/us) ____________ Right. It refers to "STILL-LIVING PERSONS" at...
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    Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

    The word "harpagēsometha [G726]" ['snatched / catching-away / caught-up'] is not used with regard to the "2W' in Rev11, and I believe purposely so... Rather, the word "anebēsan [G305]" is used (Rev11:12), and I believe is purposely this way to clearly DISTINGUISH it from a "snatch /...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    So, what do you make of what 1Th 3:13 is saying (where it also talks about "the coming / parousia of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints"), where the phrase "before [G1715] the God and Father of us" is also mentioned? (This comports also with the scene in Rev4, regarding the "24 elders"...
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    ...events (Lk21:23,20; Matt22:7, etc), but not that He "RETURNED" to do so (biblically speaking). [inserting this] And I see NO mention of "harpazo / SNATCH [IN THE AIR]" of anyone in the events surrounding 70ad. I do see this, however: "and they shall be LED AWAY CAPTIVE into all the...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    [I changed up the order of these quotes so I could address this part first ^ ] In the text, the word "first" does NOT hook up with the clause about "the man of sin be revealed". It is instead connected to the clause preceding that one. Yes, it makes a difference. Recall, I've pointed out...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ...[singular]"... See Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), one of which is the doctrine of "rapture / snatch / caught up / harpagēsometha / harpazo [G726]"--which was not promised to OT saints nor to Trib saints, thus does not pertain to them at all ("Rapture [IN THE AIR]" pertains SOLELY TO...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ..."FUTURE"; Comp. v.9 with Rom11:26-27,15... along with Dan9:24's "TIME-prophecy" re: Daniel's people and Daniel's holy city); It is not a "harpazo / snatch / rapture / caught-away," but rather, a "shall be gathered ONE BY ONE" (to JERUSALEM)... i.e. the OPPOSITE OUTCOME from that of the "70ad"...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ..."POST-tribbers" do ^ ... which some posts in this thread have pointed out... A few, for example: --there is NO mention of "harpagēsometha / harpazo / snatch / caught-away / rapture [G726]" (TO the meeting of the Lord IN THE AIR) in Matthew 24 (or its numerous parallel passages, that is, in...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    Agreed. Paul makes very clear the SEQUENCE (Rapture before the start of "the DOTL" time-period of Judgments unfolding upon the earth), and he REPEATS this sequence THREE TIMES in 2Th2 (and which sequence AGREES with the SAME sequence shown in his first letter to them--chpt4 & 5... Not to mention...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ...[<--this latter verse, a time-prophecy also specifically re: "THY [Daniel's] people, and THY [Daniel's] holy city"] No one is being "harpazo'd / snatched [TO the meeting of the Lord IN THE AIR]" in any of these texts. = ) [I just read someone's post on a different discussion board...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    ...the "days" being referred to in that chpt, vv1,6-7, aka at the END of the second half of the future Trib period. No OT saint was promised "SNATCH / harpazo [IN THE AIR]"... They were promised "resurrection" ('to stand again' on the earth)... for those reading along (I think you, cv5, grasp...
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    RAPTURE

    ...point. Those folks are still located on the earth upon His "return" there, and it is never said of them that they lift off the earth (or are "harpazo'd" / snatched, in any way). [for the readers: "the Bride/Wife [singular]" (pertaining to "the MARRIAGE" itself, v.7) is distinct from...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    ...pertain solely to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (see Eph1:20-23 [WHEN (as to its existence)]; the concept of "rapture / snatch / caught up / harpazo [G726]" pertains SOLELY TO/FOR/ABOUT "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (ALL those saved "in this present age [singular]"), not to all other saints...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    I think what you mean to say is that there is no mention (nor concept) of "harpazo [G726]" in the Olivet Discourse. And here is what Strong's Concordance (and Exhaustive Concordance) have to say about that word (used in 1Th4:17, regarding "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"... ALL those having...