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[JaumeJ]

I was under the impression He didn't have one.

You both give the impression you do not read the Bible, you know, the book you are saying you are discussing…...……..…..

 

[blue_ladybug]

Ya know, it would be alot easier to click on this thread, had you given it a title and not 2 smileycons..

 

[stonesoffire]

Fascinating. I've not heard of Asherah as God's wife till now.
I did some digging and found a few things.

Asherah pole
An Asherah pole is a sacred tree or pole that stood near Canaanite religious locations to honor the Ugaritic mother-goddess Asherah, consort of El. The relation of the literary references to an asherah and archaeological finds of Judaean pillar-figurines has engendered a literature of debate. More at link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah_pole

In that definition Asherah was the consort of El. El is one of the names of God. https://hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/El/el.html

Curious too in that Genesis account of our creation says God created Adam in his own image and likeness. Then he breathed into Adam's nostrils and Adam became a living soul. Then God created Eve so that the man would not be alone. He created her from Adam's rib. Interesting location. She wasn't from the foot so as to be beneath Adam. Nor from the skull plates so as to be above Adam. But rather, from the middle of Adam, his rib. And they were as one.
God felt Adam needed a help meet, a companion. When God made them in his own image wouldn't that mean Eve was likened unto God's image as well? Maybe God decided Adam needed a consort because God knew what that companionship of female power was like.

Father has many descriptive names, and one of them El Shaddai which means “many breasted One”.

The “us” in Genesis is the trinity of God. Father, Son, Spirit.

 

[Adstar]

I was under the impression He didn't have one.

He does not have one and has never had one.. The Jews did worship idols and God punished them severly for it.. People promoting the existence of a wife of God are taking part in an abomination..

 

[Anidod]

Ya know, it would be alot easier to click on this thread, had you given it a title and not 2 smileycons..

Then this thread is for those that want to click?

 

[Anidod]

He does not have one and has never had one.. The Jews did worship idols and God punished them severly for it.. People promoting the existence of a wife of God are taking part in an abomination..

I don't see how God having a wife, is an abomination.

 

[Anidod]

Father has many descriptive names, and one of them El Shaddai which means “many breasted One”.

The “us” in Genesis is the trinity of God. Father, Son, Spirit.

Maybe it was Father, Son, and her?

 

[Anidod]

Please stop talking about ashera, it is from the devil.

Judges 3:7
The sons of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgot the LORD their God and served the Baals and the Asheroth

2 Kings 23:13
The high places which were before Jerusalem, which were on the right of the mount of destruction which Solomon the king of Israel had built for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Sidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, and for Milcom the abomination of the sons of Ammon, the king defiled

I am 100% certain that God would not "marry" a demon or a lie from the devil. He called it an "abomination". There is nothing interesting in it that we should be curious. We should run from things like these, and forget them! Even the pharisees of Jesus's time have left this evil thing behind, so why are Christ's followers now interested in this evil??

So I want to say Ashera and Astheroth are different? Honestly, I don't know but it is interesting to me, if it is true.

 

[Adstar]

I don't see how God having a wife, is an abomination.

Then you are blind to the nature of God..

 

[posthuman]

He created her from Adam's rib. Interesting location.

They pierced His side and out flowed water.

There are archeological remains of blasphemy in Israel because they were idolatrous and whored themselves to every idol including the demon goddess Eostare / Astarte / Ashereh.

They were wicked and blasphemous people. Just because you find evidence of idolatry in Israel does not mean you found a good thing or something to inform your theology; instead, evidence of their evil. It's what you ought to expect to find given what the OT says about how adulterous they have been as His people.

 

[posthuman]

So I want to say Ashera and Astheroth are different? Honestly, I don't know but it is interesting to me, if it is true.

No, same goddess, different names from different languages. She was wife of Baal and worshipped all over the Levant. In Greece & other parts of Europe she was called Eos and it's from her name the word Easter is derived.

 

[Sipsey]

So I want to say Ashera and Astheroth are different? Honestly, I don't know but it is interesting to me, if it is true.

ASHERAH (DEITY) [Heb ˒ăšērâ (אֲשֵׁרָה); ˒ăšêrâ (אֲשֵׁירָה)]. Asherah appears in the OT both as the name of a Canaanite goddess and of her wooden cult-symbol. She is known in the Ugaritic texts under the name of Athirat (˒aṯrt), where she functions as consort of the chief god, El, and mother of the gods. Prior to the discovery of the Ugaritic texts some scholars denied that Asherah was the name of a goddess while others wrongly equated her with Astarte (Ashtoreth). Since Yahweh is equated with El in the OT, it is understandable, and wrong, that in syncretistic circles Yahweh also appropriated Asherah as his consort.

 

[Kavik]

So I want to say Ashera and Astheroth are different?

The -th at the end of Asheroth is the marker of a feminine noun - both are one in the same name.

 

[posthuman]

Father has many descriptive names, and one of them El Shaddai which means “many breasted One”.

um, you might want to fact check that.

 

[Victor1999]

The word Shaddai (often represented by just it's first letter ש) appears on most doorposts in the modern state of Israel and on other Jewish doorposts around the world. It is treated by modern Jews as an abbreviation:

ש.ד.י
שומר דלתות ישראל
S.D.I
Shomer Daltot Israel
Guardian of Israel's Gates (or just keeper of doorposts)

This is done in remembrance of the mercy God had on the Israelites on Passover.

 

[Whispered]

Father has many descriptive names, and one of them El Shaddai which means “many breasted One”.

Yes, that was at the Hebrew language site I shared.
https://hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/El/el.html

The “us” in Genesis is the trinity of God. Father, Son, Spirit.

There is only one. God is a noun. The Father is Holy Spirit and Jesus was the Father alive with us. One. Not three. The powers that would later be understood as any is why I think God referred to himself in the plural form. The royal language the people would understand when speaking as the many. We, Us, and so forth.
While God himself assured us, there is only one. There is no other savior but He. That is because God is our Savior.

 

[Whispered]

I think when it says, "Let US make.." it is referring to God and His Companion...

That is a new take on things. Very well could be. I have always thought the plural form of language God used in such teachings was the royal tongue usage. Because in the Bible His is called the Royal law.
Your idea though is new and could be just as valid.
We know if we study beyond the Bible those who are the teachers of the deep studies of scripture, such as Soteriology, Apologetics, and so forth, that the Bible has been edited over the years.
The first KJV for instance carried the Apocrypha. Now current versions do not unless someone seeks that copy out.
The American Standard Bible carries those what are now called, forbidden or lost books, as well. Many versions are now being published with that addition.
There's the contemporary language version out now. The Bible has not remained in its original form from the beginning. And it stands to reason that in a Patriarchal system like Judaism and then the Catholic influence that later followed the copied version after the Council of Nicea gathering, and the subsequent councils that convened over the centuries, that anything that would empower the female spirit would likely be deleted.

Women were thought to be the servants of the male. Even in American law in the early founding women were property to be controlled by the patriarch in their family. And later in their marriage house. It is not too far off the beam then to believe a female power in God's word would not be acceptable in those times.
And what a lesson that is too. That male bias toward the female sex, empowered by God to continue the bloodline of the human race and nourish the fruits of their womb from their own body, would be deemed by men to be less than. When God clearly created us to be far more than what is presented in Patriarchal ideologies, not just the Hebrew Christian, across the globe.

Also when the commandments were given, one of them was not to make any image of anything above …. and in Deuteronomy 16:21-22 I believe the problem was that they had made an image of her.
21 Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the Lord thy God, which thou shalt make thee. 22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the Lord thy God hateth.

I wonder if the remark about God hating such things was an addition that the scribes installed so as to make the prohibition more solid? God hates this so best not disobey for sure.

I did read that passage in chapter 16 as well. I think the problem was in Exodus the emancipated Israelite's lost faith in Moses leading them when they cast the gold the Egyptians gave them at their Exodus into the form of a calf. Their worship of that golden idol that was thought to be able to guide them through the desert where Moses failed, in their view, would likely be why graven images were later forbidden them.
I wonder if people today realize that would mean even the dove, or the cross, are not to be worn or displayed in the home or church?

Here are more verses I found interesting.

2 Chronicles 15: 16

16 And also concerning Maachah the mother of Asa the king, he removed her from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove: and Asa cut down her idol, and stamped it, and burnt it at the brook Kidron. 17 But the high places were not taken away out of Israel: nevertheless the heart of Asa was perfect all his days.

AND

1 King 15:13-14

13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron. 14 But the high places were not removed: nevertheless Asa's heart was perfect with the Lord all his days.

some Bible translations say FOR Asherah, why not OF Asherah or TO THE sacred pole, why not OF THE sacred pole?

Now when I read of the Asherah pole I think of the ancient history related to the pagan May pole. A phallic symbol related to the fruitfulness of the communities or tribes.
Could this be the same meaning in that Hebrew era? After all, the prohibitions of mixing the bloodlines in early Hebrew history was related to keeping the tribal bloods pure. The continuation of a blood line would be of high importance. And the early Jews were polytheists as we know.

Good posts. Likely very unique for Christian discussion sites when so many topics can repeat themselves quite often.

 

[Whispered]

Please stop talking about ashera, it is from the devil.

I know I would never be so bold as to claim something in God's eternal word is from the Devil.
If you don't wish to read parts of this discussion you are certainly mature enough and free enough to scroll past, are you not?

We who choose to participate in the discussion concerning Asherah do so because Asherah, just like the Devil, is part of the Holy Bible writings.
Please don't presume to tell a Christian they are not entitled to speak of what is written in God's breath. When God's holy words contain it we are certainly entitled to discuss it. If it offends you you are certainly entitled to ignore us and those passages under discussion.

God Bless.

100 Bible Verses about Asherah

 

[Whispered]

Correction:

some Bible translations say FOR Asherah, why not OF Asherah other translations say TO THE sacred pole, why not OF THE sacred pole?

In other words, the problem was they had made images for her (an idol) and the problem was not because it was Asherah. Also why would it called Asherah sacred?

Indeed. Something evil titled sacred?
I went looking for something to answer that new question that you brought to my mind. I found these links. There are far more of course. I used the search criterion, why was asherah called sacred bible.

These are just a few of those result sources I wanted to share with you. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...herah-and-the-asherim-goddess-or-cult-symbol/

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/asherah/

https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/asherahasherim-bible

 

[Whispered]

They pierced His side and out flowed water.

There are archeological remains of blasphemy in Israel because they were idolatrous and whored themselves to every idol including the demon goddess Eostare / Astarte / Ashereh.

They were wicked and blasphemous people. Just because you find evidence of idolatry in Israel does not mean you found a good thing or something to inform your theology; instead, evidence of their evil. It's what you ought to expect to find given what the OT says about how adulterous they have been as His people.

I admit I'm a bit confused by your confusing post. While you did quote me your observations have nothing to do with my own. Perhaps you meant this for someone else and quoted me by mistake?