1 Day Ago) Tyler Robinson , accused of the murder of Charlie Kirk, has second court hearing

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Churchgoer said:
Lee Harvey Oswald s picture resembles Tyler Roberson

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Probably needs its own thread, but certainly related to this one. When Department of War employees are outed pretending to be ordinary citizens whilst lying about and attacking on social media those investigating Who Shot Charlie Kirk... Why on Earth would the Pentagon go to war against civilians like Candace Owens simply for questioning the Fedslop narrative? Where there's smoke, there's fire...

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Charlesiii said:
Probably needs its own thread, but certainly related to this one. When Department of War employees are outed pretending to be ordinary citizens whilst lying about and attacking on social media those investigating Who Shot Charlie Kirk... Why on Earth would the Pentagon go to war against civilians like Candace Owens simply for questioning the Fedslop narrative? Where there's smoke, there's fire...

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Indeed , always question the official story.
In covid time, remember they told everyone to take the shots? Safe and effective? Safe? Not sure. Effective, yes. They told 50 % truth.
 
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The only story I don't question is the one found in the holy scriptures. (y) God bless everyone!

2 Timothy 3​

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
 
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dkontner said:
The only story I don't question is the one found in the holy scriptures. (y) God bless everyone!

2 Timothy 3​

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
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That passage to Timothy regarding all scripture was referring to the Torah.

Hopefully you'll not be called to serve on a jury.
 
Bible_Locket said:
That passage to Timothy regarding all scripture was referring to the Torah.

Hopefully you'll not be called to serve on a jury.
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The Meaning of "Scripture"
    • The Greek Word: The original Greek word is graphē, which simply means "a writing" or "something written". [1, 2]
    • The Old Testament: When the Apostle Paul wrote this letter, the official sacred writings available were the 39 books of the Old Testament (the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings). [1, 2]
    • Childhood Learning: Just before this verse in 2 Timothy 3:15, Paul reminds Timothy that he has known the "sacred writings" since infancy, pointing directly to the Old Testament education he received. [1, 2]
    The Torah only refers to the 5 books of Moses. All Scripture refers to 39 books of the Old Testament, not to just 5 of them.
 
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The Old Testament was still being formally standardized by Jewish Rabbis around the late 1st century. The final product occurred gradually. Starting around between 200 BCE and unto 200 CE.

So no, Paul wasn't referring to the entirety of the OT in 2 Timothy 3.

The sacred writings Paul,a Pharisee , would be referring to,and Timothy would know this, would be the Torah, (i.e the law), the Ketuvim (The Writings), and The Nevi'im (The Prophets the former prophets )

This wasn't a bound book,like what we imagine as the Old Testament unto itself. These were scrolls that were kept in a chest.
 
Bible_Locket said:
The Old Testament was still being formally standardized by Jewish Rabbis around the late 1st century. The final product occurred gradually. Starting around between 200 BCE and unto 200 CE.

So no, Paul wasn't referring to the entirety of the OT in 2 Timothy 3.

The sacred writings Paul,a Pharisee , would be referring to,and Timothy would know this, would be the Torah, (i.e the law), the Ketuvim (The Writings), and The Nevi'im (The Prophets the former prophets )

This wasn't a bound book,like what we imagine as the Old Testament unto itself. These were scrolls that were kept in a chest.
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If so, why Jesus quoted many OT verses, which are from many OT books. Not limited to first 5.
 
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Churchgoer said:
If so, why Jesus quoted many OT verses, which are from many OT books. Not limited to first 5.
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Yeah, that is an absurd teaching. The term scripture would have referred to all sacred texts including prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, writings of Solomon. If Paul wanted to limit it to the Law he would have said that and anyway prior to Paul Jesus in the gospels refers to the law and prophets and quotes the Psalms.
 
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Churchgoer said:
It seems the ot was largely recognized 400 to 200 bc.
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  • Isaiah 61:1–2 – Read by Jesus in the synagogue at Nazareth to announce His ministry: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me..." (Luke 4:18–19).
  • Psalm 22:1 – Uttered by Jesus on the cross: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34). [1, 2]
  • Psalm 31:5 – Spoken during His final moments: "Into your hands I commit my spirit" (Luke 23:46). [1]
Mark 12:10 – "Have you not even read this Scripture: ‘The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone’?"

Same word "Scripture".

Matthew 24:15 – "Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place..."
Matthew 24:30 – "...and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
Matthew 26:64 – "It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.
 
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Churchgoer said:
If so, why Jesus quoted many OT verses, which are from many OT books. Not limited to first 5.
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It may help if you look up what comprised the writings I referred to.

It's natural to think Jesus was referring to the OT canon as we know it .
We picture a bound OT canon book ranging in the books from Genesis to Malachi.

But that isn't the case.

Remember when as a boy Jesus was found by his parents to be teaching in the Temple?
He was reading from a scroll.

The OT wasn't canonized as yet when Jesus referred to the Torah or "the writings."
 
Bible_Locket said:
It may help if you look up what comprised the writings I referred to.

It's natural to think Jesus was referring to the OT canon as we know it .
We picture a bound OT canon book ranging in the books from Genesis to Malachi.

But that isn't the case.

Remember when as a boy Jesus was found by his parents to be teaching in the Temple?
He was reading from a scroll.

The OT wasn't canonized as yet when Jesus referred to the Torah or "the writings."
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Jesus was quoting Psalms, Isaiah and Daniel and calling them "scriptures"
 
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Bible_Locket said:
You should maybe consider what I said about the Ketuvim (The Writings), and The Nevi'im.
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I did, and I looked at the Apostle Paul's use of this word and concluded if he wanted to say "Law" or "Torah" he would have. Instead he said scriptures and he also had quoted Isaiah, Psalms, Job, and many other books that would be considered scriptures. In the letters to Timothy Paul references Jannes and Jambres which are not mentioned in the Torah, so that must be a reference to another spiritual book and he quotes Isaiah.
 
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ZNP said:
I did, and I looked at the Apostle Paul's use of this word and concluded if he wanted to say "Law" or "Torah" he would have. Instead he said scriptures and he also had quoted Isaiah, Psalms, Job, and many other books that would be considered scriptures. In the letters to Timothy Paul references Jannes and Jambres which are not mentioned in the Torah, so that must be a reference to another spiritual book and he quotes Isaiah.
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You obviously did not.
Or,you would not continue to repeat your errant opinion .

You refuse to educate yourself because your pride insists you be correct. Even when you are not.
 
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Bible_Locket said:
You obviously did not.
Or,you would not continue to repeat your errant opinion .

You refuse to educate yourself because your pride insists you be correct. Even when you are not.
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Thank you for confirming my conclusion.
 
ZNP said:
Thank you for confirming my conclusion.
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Sad that you find your own obstinance amusing.

Now I know why you rarely discuss Scripture on the boards. You know nothing. And you imagine fabrication when challenged with scripture passes for knowledge.

It doesn't. It takes far less time to educate yourself than it does to continually transgress truth.

We're done. Jesus says we are to have nothing to do with you.
 
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Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Proverbs 27:15 A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike.
 
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I'd also suggest we keep this thread on the topic of Charlies assassination and the trial of his Assassin.

Ignore derail from those who would now also defame an Apostle.

Pray for Charlies grieving family. Their enemies clearly have no intention of stopping.🙏
 
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