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The bishop of Rome was first called the successor of St Peter and St Paul.
Peter was one of the 12 Jesus himself chose to be an apostle, Jesus revealed himself to Paul who went on to evangelize a large portion of the Roman Empire.
.......................................As to your belief that the Catholic Church teaches as dogma heresy, and so you must be separated from her, get in line, many have separated from the Catholic Church. I do not consider you less a christian for your separation, and I would hope you would not think me less of a christian for remaining with her (Catholic Church).
If you are christian, then you cannot agree with all of catholic doctrine. I have said it before, and now, again: If you want to get your bible out and go over catholic doctrine line by line, I will do it.
My best friend is catholic. His brother, also my best friend, was also catholic, now deceased. I told/tell both of them what I am saying here: They believe a false doctrine.
M
Re: Phil112
Then why repent at all if we can count on God's mercy regardless
"While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Yes I believe we can count on the mercy of God.
I also believe the word of God that says we are not to judge or condemn anyone.
I also do not believe God has commissioned you to pronounce judgement on the Catholic Church.
Jesus Christ will judge the living and the dead, not a group of self righteous pontificators on CC.
God have mercy on all our souls through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
Yes I believe we can count on the mercy of God.
I also believe the word of God that says we are not to judge or condemn anyone.
I also do not believe God has commissioned you to pronounce judgement on the Catholic Church.
Jesus Christ will judge the living and the dead, not a group of self righteous pontificators on CC.
God have mercy on all our souls through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
Then why repent at all if we can count on God's mercy regardless
By man, not God.
The catholics base their "authority" on Peter, completely disregarding what Paul taught, and yet when Peter erred, it was Paul that got in his face and straightened him out. Given that Peter was taught by Christ with the rest of the apostles, Paul was taught by Christ alone for 3 years as God's choice to preach His word to the gentile, it is clear that Paul's teaching has a higher significance for us today than Peter.
I have never been, will never be, catholic. Been to mass a couple of times with friends, and to a few funereals in a catholic church.
If you are christian, then you cannot agree with all of catholic doctrine. I have said it before, and now, again: If you want to get your bible out and go over catholic doctrine line by line, I will do it.
My best friend is catholic. His brother, also my best friend, was also catholic, now deceased. I told/tell both of them what I am saying here: They believe a false doctrine.
The catholics base their "authority" on Peter, completely disregarding what Paul taught, and yet when Peter erred, it was Paul that got in his face and straightened him out. Given that Peter was taught by Christ with the rest of the apostles, Paul was taught by Christ alone for 3 years as God's choice to preach His word to the gentile, it is clear that Paul's teaching has a higher significance for us today than Peter.
I have never been, will never be, catholic. Been to mass a couple of times with friends, and to a few funereals in a catholic church.
If you are christian, then you cannot agree with all of catholic doctrine. I have said it before, and now, again: If you want to get your bible out and go over catholic doctrine line by line, I will do it.
My best friend is catholic. His brother, also my best friend, was also catholic, now deceased. I told/tell both of them what I am saying here: They believe a false doctrine.
I am not here to contend with you over your understanding of the Catholic Church and why you believe it is wrong. I plainly and repectfully explained to you why I said what I said. I do not need to validate the Catholic Church because God has already validated the church. Jesus Christ I know, and the Catholic Church I know because it has been here proclaiming the gospel to mankind since the days of the apostles. I do not know these sects and cults that have seperated themselves all claiming to have Christ as their authority. I folllow Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.
You, as many others, believe you know the truth and stand on your own authority, or as you would like to think the authority of the bible (as you interpret it). I, on the other hand, do not have the capasity to proclaim my own understanding as authoritative and realize God has placed the authority of revelation and doctrine into the hands of his Church. If I disagree with any doctrines of the Church I have not received any revelation from God to proclaim my own understanding above the doctrines and traditions of the Church. The Nicene Creed is the profession of faith catholics proclaim to the world. Explain to me where this creed is in error or where you would disagree with it, and perhaps we can find some ground on which we can agree or continue to disagree.
Christ be with you always,
Vernon
a brother in Christ
M
Re: Phil112
To repent means to turn from your wicked ways,
you can't repent and still call yourself a muslim, or a hindu or a catholic etc
I used to be a catholic but I'm a born again christian now
Jesus began his ministry by saying " Repent and believe the gospel for the kingdom of God is at hand." I never said that we did not need to repent.
you can't repent and still call yourself a muslim, or a hindu or a catholic etc
I used to be a catholic but I'm a born again christian now
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Vernon, tho it does sound that way at times, I do not mean to be contentious. As Mark says, one has to repent. A catholic is in a false religion. That doesn't condemn you by itself, but there comes a time, when the truth is shown, that you have to turn from that. I am against all religion that goes against bible teaching, and catholic is one of them.
When I can show clearly, and indisputably, that Christ is against some things one believes in, that isn't my opinion, that is what Christ said about it. Do catholics believe some things that I do? Yes. Does that make them ok? What do you think?
If you put a gallon of white paint in a bucket with black paint, it won't make the paint white, conversely, if you put a cup of black paint in a barrel of white paint, it dirties the paint.
Having some doctrine that is okay is not good enough. The false doctrine dirties the true doctrine.
When I can show clearly, and indisputably, that Christ is against some things one believes in, that isn't my opinion, that is what Christ said about it. Do catholics believe some things that I do? Yes. Does that make them ok? What do you think?
If you put a gallon of white paint in a bucket with black paint, it won't make the paint white, conversely, if you put a cup of black paint in a barrel of white paint, it dirties the paint.
Having some doctrine that is okay is not good enough. The false doctrine dirties the true doctrine.
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Re: Phil112
I was born again before you were born naturally, so I will not take you calling me wicked serious.
The Lord will forgive you.
Christ be with you always.
To repent means to turn from your wicked ways,
you can't repent and still call yourself a muslim, or a hindu or a catholic etc
I used to be a catholic but I'm a born again christian now
you can't repent and still call yourself a muslim, or a hindu or a catholic etc
I used to be a catholic but I'm a born again christian now
The Lord will forgive you.
Christ be with you always.
Vernon, tho it does sound that way at times, I do not mean to be contentious. As Mark says, one has to repent. A catholic is in a false religion. That doesn't condemn you by itself, but there comes a time, when the truth is shown, that you have to turn from that. I am against all religion that goes against bible teaching, and catholic is one of them.
When I can show clearly, and indisputably, that Christ is against some things one believes in, that isn't my opinion, that is what Christ said about it. Do catholics believe some things that I do? Yes. Does that make them ok? What do you think?
If you put a gallon of white paint in a bucket with black paint, it won't make the paint white, conversely, if you put a cup of black paint in a barrel of white paint, it dirties the paint.
Having some doctrine that is okay is not good enough. The false doctrine dirties the true doctrine.
When I can show clearly, and indisputably, that Christ is against some things one believes in, that isn't my opinion, that is what Christ said about it. Do catholics believe some things that I do? Yes. Does that make them ok? What do you think?
If you put a gallon of white paint in a bucket with black paint, it won't make the paint white, conversely, if you put a cup of black paint in a barrel of white paint, it dirties the paint.
Having some doctrine that is okay is not good enough. The false doctrine dirties the true doctrine.
Christ be with you always
F
Catholics believe and teach that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Saviour. The reasons one should take care following other teachings of the Catholic Church are as follows:
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Now you are ether offering a lamination of your beliefs (Which means nothing!) or you can give clear scripture into supporting your presentation on each and every level of your claims. Having heard all this so many times before by so many before you, I eagerly await your evidences, for as yet, no supportable has yet to be shown to exist, without adding to the word to make it say so! So please do something new and prove the beliefs you have pressed with evidence.
Catholics believe and teach that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Saviour. The reasons one should take care following other teachings of the Catholic Church are as follows:
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
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The reasons one should take care following teachings of the Catholic Church are as follows:
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result
of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. Homosexuals abound in the Catholic church. Thousands of young lives have been damaged since the middle ages by sexual abuse and rape commited by Catholic priest. If you have children or grandchildren that attend a Catholic church watch them very close. Never leave them alone with a priest. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result
of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. Homosexuals abound in the Catholic church. Thousands of young lives have been damaged since the middle ages by sexual abuse and rape commited by Catholic priest. If you have children or grandchildren that attend a Catholic church watch them very close. Never leave them alone with a priest. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
What a fact-less disappointment you show yourself to be in your defenseless arguments. Making statements against my walk with God, even calling it none existent! You sir have shown the demonic influence you are guided by and it is not to your credit! You most be a terrible person!
Let me first say I am NOT a Roman Catholic!
I find your post bigoted and sectarian which obviously has come out of a wholly uninformed dark mind, you obviously are unable to come to any balanced informed opinion on the Roman Catholic church, I suggest you first get rid of your carnal immature attitude and then look at this subject again! 1Cor 3v1-4
I find your post bigoted and sectarian which obviously has come out of a wholly uninformed dark mind, you obviously are unable to come to any balanced informed opinion on the Roman Catholic church, I suggest you first get rid of your carnal immature attitude and then look at this subject again! 1Cor 3v1-4
To Fishbait, I am sorry to have answered you while sick in bed. I am better and after reading I must apologize for my reply's.
It is clear that you also see the faults with catholic legalisms.
It is clear that you also see the faults with catholic legalisms.
The reasons one should take care following teachings of the Catholic Church are as follows:
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result
of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. Homosexuals abound in the Catholic church. Thousands of young lives have been damaged since the middle ages by sexual abuse and rape commited by Catholic priest. If you have children or grandchildren that attend a Catholic church watch them very close. Never leave them alone with a priest. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result
of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians
3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. Homosexuals abound in the Catholic church. Thousands of young lives have been damaged since the middle ages by sexual abuse and rape commited by Catholic priest. If you have children or grandchildren that attend a Catholic church watch them very close. Never leave them alone with a priest. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
Re: Phil112
I agree with you here Vernon, but there are plenty who believe that Christ will accept them "just the way they are" without changing anything.
Jesus began his ministry by saying " Repent and believe the gospel for the kingdom of God is at hand." I never said that we did not need to repent.
Re: Phil112
The words from the Bible are clear to "come as you are", but it never says stay as you are! A proclamation of words is to agree to set guidelines, but a change of heart requires no law. If it is your heart that adopts the heart of God, how does it not cry out in pain at the burdens it can not remove and celebrate the burdens it can remove, that is how the Bible describes God's heart! All else is vanity!
The words from the Bible are clear to "come as you are", but it never says stay as you are! A proclamation of words is to agree to set guidelines, but a change of heart requires no law. If it is your heart that adopts the heart of God, how does it not cry out in pain at the burdens it can not remove and celebrate the burdens it can remove, that is how the Bible describes God's heart! All else is vanity!
I agree with you here Vernon, but there are plenty who believe that Christ will accept them "just the way they are" without changing anything.