A Little Note And Reminder About The Prophetic Gift
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Under whose authority do you preach? You are a woman, therefore should be submitting to someone. So, who are you submitting to that you think you have authority to preach to people you do not know?
Women are to be subject to their own husbands, if they have one, which I do not, or to their fathers, if they are minors, which I am not. And they are to keep silent in the churches, which I am not in. (Are you silent in church?) I am under the Lord's authority, and I speak as the faith He gives me permits, as one who will have to give an account to Him for what I do and why, which He knows.
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Actually, where do you come to understand your father loses all authority once you become a woman? That's not biblical.
And, if you aren't married, and your father isn't a believer, you are responsible in finding someone you are willing to submit under. (Usually a pastor, uncle, or someone you've known and trusted for years.)
Nope. Sorry. Even your response to this tells me, your authority isn't God. You're free-wheeling this.
You are still of that age where you should be mentored. And mentored by someone grounded in the Lord and able to ground you.
You speak as a child in most of your posts. And, at your age, you should be speaking as a woman. You've neglected a mantle of someone over you for far too long.
Now that the canon of scripture is complete or perfect understanding of the Holy is available to all who desire and seek.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
But does anyone actually perfectly understand the Holy? Has anyone ever actually achieved that perfect understanding (besides Jesus of course)?
What we have going on in Christianity in this last hour is a major case of beam-in-the-eye: A church with abundant unfaithfulness trying to bring people to a God to whom she herself is not obedient.
First take the beam out of your own eye! How can you point others to the truth and not live according to it yourself? You preach people a half gospel and you point them to a Jesus who is not the holy God the Bible says He is, or the Master of those who receive Him as "Lord", but more like yourselves, made in your own image, an accepter and permitter of sin, who wants you to have the world and your own way and heaven too! Even if you don't teach this by word, you teach it by how you live.
Why do I say that it is the church that has the beam in its eye and not the world? Because the church has the TRUTH and KNOWS BETTER. She's not ignorant and helpless like the world; she knows what God says and how He is---although she has tried to change both to suit her desires, and has forgotten what it means to be holy. Yet she presumes to reprove the world she loves and imitates? (Or else she doesn't reprove at all, because of her hypocrisy, greed and cowardice.)
Who has the greater sin in God's eyes? The one who doesn't know what God commands and desires and doesn't have His grace to obey Him, or the one who has these and despises them?
"We just need to share Christ with the world," you say.
Rubbish! You're going to share Him with the world for what? To make more degenerate Christians who do as you do? Is that what you think God wants? Look at yourselves in the light of the New Testament and see how you have fallen! God's name is blasphemed among the nations because of you! They look in your own Book and say, "This is what it says, but they don't do this." And they look at your ways and say, "Their God accepts sin; Christians are immoral and immodest."
FIRST take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to remove the mote from the world's. Remember your God, and preach Him as He is---not as you want Him to be; teach others to observe all that Jesus has commanded you, and lead by example.
God wants a holy people, and He wants genuine Christians, and the Lord's adulterous church is not producing either.
I warn you that God is not pleased at all: He is grieved, He is disgusted, and He is furious, and has been for a long time, while you've been making merry and rejoicing in how "blessed" you are. And now His judgment is about to begin with His household, with YOU.
Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, "He yearns jealously over the spirit that He has made to dwell in us"? But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you." (James 4:5-10)
First take the beam out of your own eye! How can you point others to the truth and not live according to it yourself? You preach people a half gospel and you point them to a Jesus who is not the holy God the Bible says He is, or the Master of those who receive Him as "Lord", but more like yourselves, made in your own image, an accepter and permitter of sin, who wants you to have the world and your own way and heaven too! Even if you don't teach this by word, you teach it by how you live.
Why do I say that it is the church that has the beam in its eye and not the world? Because the church has the TRUTH and KNOWS BETTER. She's not ignorant and helpless like the world; she knows what God says and how He is---although she has tried to change both to suit her desires, and has forgotten what it means to be holy. Yet she presumes to reprove the world she loves and imitates? (Or else she doesn't reprove at all, because of her hypocrisy, greed and cowardice.)
Who has the greater sin in God's eyes? The one who doesn't know what God commands and desires and doesn't have His grace to obey Him, or the one who has these and despises them?
"We just need to share Christ with the world," you say.
Rubbish! You're going to share Him with the world for what? To make more degenerate Christians who do as you do? Is that what you think God wants? Look at yourselves in the light of the New Testament and see how you have fallen! God's name is blasphemed among the nations because of you! They look in your own Book and say, "This is what it says, but they don't do this." And they look at your ways and say, "Their God accepts sin; Christians are immoral and immodest."
FIRST take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to remove the mote from the world's. Remember your God, and preach Him as He is---not as you want Him to be; teach others to observe all that Jesus has commanded you, and lead by example.
God wants a holy people, and He wants genuine Christians, and the Lord's adulterous church is not producing either.
I warn you that God is not pleased at all: He is grieved, He is disgusted, and He is furious, and has been for a long time, while you've been making merry and rejoicing in how "blessed" you are. And now His judgment is about to begin with His household, with YOU.
Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, "He yearns jealously over the spirit that He has made to dwell in us"? But He gives more grace. Therefore it says, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you." (James 4:5-10)
Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
as in obeying the voice of the LORD?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
and to listen than the fat of rams.
For rebellion is as the sin of divination,
and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the LORD,
He has also rejected you...
(1 SAMUEL 15:22,23)
Oh, but you say, 'That was the Old Testament. God doesn't feel that way anymore. He's love now.'
(So He changed, is what you're saying? He used to be wrathful and unmerciful, and now He's loving and merciful? Nonsense. He's the same God. He was loving and merciful back then, just as He is now, and He has wrath now, just as He did then; and He feels the very same way about rebellion. If you don't believe this, read Hebrews 10:26-31.)
New Testament:
"I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for My name's sake, and you have not grown weary.
But this I have against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first.
Remember therefore from where you have FALLEN; REPENT and do the works you did at first.
If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent."
(Revelation 2:2-5)
If your church isn't even as good as the church in Ephesus was, and they were rebuked for having left their first love, and in danger of having their lampstand (or candlestick) removed, how do you think the Lord feels about YOURS!
Wake up, people: God's standard for Christians is still the New Testament, and He feels the same way about rebellion that He always has. If His word and His Spirit don't confirm your opinion of yourself and what you think He thinks of you, you're in trouble.
By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before Him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and He knows everything.
Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us we have confidence before God; and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do what pleases Him. (1 John 3:19-22)
(And don't tell yourself that His only commandments are to believe in the name of Jesus and to love one another (1 John 3:23). You know from the rest of the New Testament that those aren't the only ones God expects us to keep; besides the fact that many of the other commandments in the NT are the instructions for how Christians are to love each other (1 John 5:2). Which of the Lord's New Testament commandments is He okay with you not keeping? Don't be foolish. Remember Ephesus.)
as in obeying the voice of the LORD?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
and to listen than the fat of rams.
For rebellion is as the sin of divination,
and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the LORD,
He has also rejected you...
(1 SAMUEL 15:22,23)
Oh, but you say, 'That was the Old Testament. God doesn't feel that way anymore. He's love now.'
(So He changed, is what you're saying? He used to be wrathful and unmerciful, and now He's loving and merciful? Nonsense. He's the same God. He was loving and merciful back then, just as He is now, and He has wrath now, just as He did then; and He feels the very same way about rebellion. If you don't believe this, read Hebrews 10:26-31.)
New Testament:
"I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for My name's sake, and you have not grown weary.
But this I have against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first.
Remember therefore from where you have FALLEN; REPENT and do the works you did at first.
If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent."
(Revelation 2:2-5)
If your church isn't even as good as the church in Ephesus was, and they were rebuked for having left their first love, and in danger of having their lampstand (or candlestick) removed, how do you think the Lord feels about YOURS!
Wake up, people: God's standard for Christians is still the New Testament, and He feels the same way about rebellion that He always has. If His word and His Spirit don't confirm your opinion of yourself and what you think He thinks of you, you're in trouble.
By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before Him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and He knows everything.
Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us we have confidence before God; and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do what pleases Him. (1 John 3:19-22)
(And don't tell yourself that His only commandments are to believe in the name of Jesus and to love one another (1 John 3:23). You know from the rest of the New Testament that those aren't the only ones God expects us to keep; besides the fact that many of the other commandments in the NT are the instructions for how Christians are to love each other (1 John 5:2). Which of the Lord's New Testament commandments is He okay with you not keeping? Don't be foolish. Remember Ephesus.)
I have been gone for a few days and as I was reading through the thread I was considering just leaving the thread and not responding as to not cause more stirring of the pot but after I read this I had to speak up. First of all everyone is correct in how you seem to be pointing to yourself not God but also you point your accusing finger to the rest of us.
Who are you to think you know our hearts? Who are you to think you know what God is thinking and feeling about any of us? I have seen and encountered your type many times before and your right the truth will be revealed on judgement day and this way you are prophesying but I fear that you may be prophesying against yourself as I wonder if judgement day is going to happen to you the way you think it is.
You claim to speak the truth yet do so with a finger of accusation, all you do is speak of how we are scoffers and speak against the church, you talk about having a plank in our eyes yet fail to see the log in your own. And to make matters worse you have the gall to speak for our Lord as if you know what he is feeling and thinking when you obviously have no idea. I am sure in your eyes you are a true prophet of God and are speaking the truth that needs to be spoken and I am sure nothing I say will move you in that respect however you should know that even the pharisees thought they were the ones with the truth and constantly accused and pointed fingers at Jesus completely oblivious to where they really stood and where the one who was being accused stood.
Which is a shame because, absent the self importance, what she says does have merit.