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They’re not gnats, they’re fleas, attracted to your self righteousness, praise Jesus
You’re gonna be really blown away when you see that were saved by grace through faith, and that not of ourselves, praise Jesus.
I’m not sure how many of us even know what “modalist” means. You have made no effort to explain anything. Your presentation of scripture is fragmented. You reek like old slewfoot himself.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 ;And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 ;And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 ;And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 ;And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 ;And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 ;And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
I've been wondering...2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 ;And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 ;And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 ;And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
When you get to heaven you're going to see a lot of people you did not expect to see there. I wonder how you will react when you see them. Will you be glad or upset? Will you greet them cheerfully or will you run to Jesus and complain that they don't deserve to be there?
On that day you should be careful. If you can't handle them being in heaven when you think they don't deserve to be, you might be asked to leave.
I will be very glad if you escape from the modalist heretic cult and convert to Christianity. But know this, those that hate God and that follow the heresies and false religions which are directly against God won't ever enter paradise, not any of them will, not because I say so, but because this how it has always been. The first commandment is the most important commandment, be logical, if you are against God, you have no hope even if you have millions of friends.
Like I said not only will you be saved from the imminent hellfire for abandoning the cult and their heinous heresy, but you'll get rewarded too while on this Earth in this life too. In fact you might have the potential to be the same exact rank of Authority in the Kingdom of God that I am at. Praise Jesus.
You keep assuming I'm part of a cult...
Which churches, according to you, are not part of a cult?
You keep assuming I'm a modalist too...
Ever try to make a house without any building materials? You sure do build up theories about people here without actually having any information with which to build.
Congratulations on your gold medal in the conclusion jump.
Okay prove me wrong, fully understand and affirm the Athanasian Creed line by line precept by precept. If you don't you're not going to be saved. Wherever your cult disagrees with the Creed that's where their heresy will be. Hiding it doesn't actually hide it just so you know.
Oh and you probably want to repent of trying to tell legion its okay to get a tattoo to cause him to sin a massive sin that could get him sent to hellfire because it definitely is not condoned by God to get a tattoo much less of "heretic" on yourself. And that's not one of the least commandments, that's one of the very much weightier ones.
I went back and looked and you only brought up that creed when you were looking for a way to discredit @Lynx. It wasn't a topic in this thread, but you sure do seem determined to find some heretics around here. Almost like those pharisees, when Jesus pointed out their hypocrisy they started looking for ways to trip him up and turn people against him because he wasn't upholding all their traditions .
No one has preached heresy here, but you sure seem determined to beat people over the head with that obscure creed until people confess their heresy or give in to you. And all this cult stuff, seems to me most cults start when someone charismatic claims special revelation and authority from god. We're just glad you're not that charismatic, world doesn't need more cults.
You're wrong again because you're a respecter of persons just like the Pharisees. Lynx wanted to know about why their Power and Authority was being taken away from their evil generations and given to the ones that actually believe in God. Therefore did I ask him if he fully understands and affirms the Athanasian Creed whereupon he outright denies the Christian faith outright and began to lie and deceive along with all his little demonic friends. Hey the little craven wolf even threatens to come huff and puff at my door to hurt me, but even if he did it won't save them from the hellfire at all. Really classic deception tactics, pretty cliche actually.
I would reject to be your leader even if offered, there's no profit in being a leader of the damned. Seeds among the weeds that you all are, but your dogpile be thrown into perdition, praise Jesus.
I do agree with the Athanasian creed. However I can understand where some misunderstanding could creep in at line 43, where it states: “And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.” I think this throws red flags for many as it could sound like good works alone are the answer. When the Bible teaches that our righteous acts are as filthy rags. Understanding that good works are an inevitable outcome, and seeing it in that light, the remainder I do align with and affirm. What I do not affirm is the way that you’ve gone about explaining it. I don’t think that helped anybody in this thread understand what the Athanasian Creed is. I seriously find myself at this point wondering if you are even real or if you’re AI generated. Perhaps it’s just that your people skills are lacking. Or are you an AI being trained on how to understand and manipulate human emotions?
You prove nothing. You are leader to no one. I assume you are referring to me as the craven wolf. I never threatened to come to your door. I merely said be prepared for a knock at your door. Clever how you have turned your threat towards myself and others that “even if we have to die with them”, inferring that you are part of the “we” and we are “them”. Your explanations are disjointed. Again, my problem is not with the Athanasian Creed, it is with you and your blatant disregard for the full counsel of the word of God, as you cherry pick the verses that best help you sow discord and confusion among the people of this thread. You’re a bag of rotten fruit.. at best.
It occurs to me, that about the worst kind of self delusion must be the "I'm always right and anyone who rejects me rejects God". It makes a person completely uncorrectable and locks them into the lies they believe.
So sonjudgment, who in the whole entire body of christ has the right to speak correction from God into your life? I know it's not me because you have as little respect or regard for me as I do for you. But if it's no one, that's a pretty serious issue because your errors will never be corrected.
So sonjudgment, who in the whole entire body of christ has the right to speak correction from God into your life? I know it's not me because you have as little respect or regard for me as I do for you. But if it's no one, that's a pretty serious issue because your errors will never be corrected.
After spending way too much time interacting with this thread and his disjointed messages, which are all fragmented at best, I am convinced he is not an actual human being. I believe he is an artificially intelligent entity that is studying human behavior and response. Am I alone?
You'll run into this type alot in online christian circles. We call them the self appointed prophet / preacher or sap for short. Basically I've come to think of them as the people who are so arrogant and lacking in people skills that they can't be part of a church and find their significance in their assumed spiritual superiority so much superior that they've rejected church as corrupted and worldly and therefore beneath their exalted spiritual state. And any suggestion that they're not as spiritual as they (want you to) think they are is seen as persecution against God's lone faithful servant.