Adam and Eve first people on earth?

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Which is why God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, RIGHT?!?

Seriously, where do these heretics come from?
Adam was asked to choose a helper in Genesis 2, not to get it on with Eve. Right?!?

Yeah. Trinitarianism, pre-trib rapture, big A antichrists, predestination, hell, etc ? From where do these unbiblical things come?!? I won't mention twisting of the Scriptures to accommodate your homosexuals and woman pastors. So tell me, from where do you come?!?
 

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Adam was asked to choose a helper in Genesis 2, not to get it on with Eve. Right?!?

Yeah. Trinitarianism, pre-trib rapture, big A antichrists, predestination, hell, etc ? From where do these unbiblical things come?!? I won't mention twisting of the Scriptures to accommodate your homosexuals and woman pastors. So tell me, from where do you come?!?
here is the problem with your thought

If adam was not made to be sexual. He would not have been created with the organs and tools to have sex and or procreate.

sometimes people just have to think
 
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here is the problem with your thought

If adam was not made to be sexual. He would not have been created with the organs and tools to have sex and or procreate.

sometimes people just have to think
You sound just like an evolutionist of the atheist sort. The example I gave concerning the design of the eye. The same pedestrian argument given by atheists to the non existence of God, is that the cones are the wrong place or in the wrong direction. Is your faith governed by misunderstood science?

Was Jesus a virgin? But why? Was He not a biological man? Did He not have the prerequisite hormones of being a man? Are you saying dan brown may be prophesying righteously?
Your understanding of the bible is based on naturalism. Conform Genesis 2 with Genesis 1. Throw in Luke 20:35 also.
 

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Adam was never intended to be a sexual creature, so there is were your pre Adamic creature lies.
I suppose asking for chapter and verse would be pointless, since there is nothing anywhere in Scripture even hinting at such a thing, which makes me wonder why anyone would assume such. In fact, it would be substantially more logical to assume Adam was created to be procreational, and that when woman was removed from him, she was likewise procreational, with the two needing to unite for that purpose. The contrary assumption rather leaves God seeming clueless regarding man's future.
 

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Adam was asked to choose a helper in Genesis 2, not to get it on with Eve. Right?!?
Wrong.

There is nothing in Genesis 2 suggesting that Adam was asked to choose a helper. God brought Eve to Adam knowing fully and intending that they would, in your crass rendering, "get it on".


I won't mention twisting of the Scriptures to accommodate your homosexuals....
You are the one coming up with nutty conclusions by twisting the Scriptures.
 

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Was Jesus a virgin? But why? Was He not a biological man? Did He not have the prerequisite hormones of being a man?
Jesus was a virgin because He did not engage in sexual relations with anyone. Being a virgin does not diminish a man's masculinity or humanity in the least. Consider the purpose for His brief stint on Earth; biological fatherhood was not part of it.

Your understanding of the bible is based on naturalism.
I would comment on your understanding of the Bible, but in this thread I don't see evidence that you have any.
 

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You sound just like an evolutionist of the atheist sort.
You sound like you just want to argue, and attack everyone who does not agree with you. Your pride is showing

The example I gave concerning the design of the eye. The same pedestrian argument given by atheists to the non existence of God, is that the cones are the wrong place or in the wrong direction. Is your faith governed by misunderstood science?

Was Jesus a virgin? But why? Was He not a biological man? Did He not have the prerequisite hormones of being a man? Are you saying dan brown may be prophesying righteously?
Your understanding of the bible is based on naturalism. Conform Genesis 2 with Genesis 1. Throw in Luke 20:35 also.
The facts are facts.

Was sex the REASON adam was created?? NO

But we see in Gen 1: 6 God commanded them to fill up the earth.

sorry bud, but for the human race, that does not happen apart from the sex act.

so your still wrong.
 

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Wrong.

There is nothing in Genesis 2 suggesting that Adam was asked to choose a helper. God brought Eve to Adam knowing fully and intending that they would, in your crass rendering, "get it on".



You are the one coming up with nutty conclusions by twisting the Scriptures.
Adam was not meant to "know" his wife I guess..lol
 

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Where Adam and Eve the first people God Created?​





The short answer is no. Before you call me crazy lets go to the bible and see what Gods word says.

Let's pick it up in the 6th day of creation.



Genesis 1.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



Verse 26. God said “Let us make man in our image, after our image” That would in His image as well as the angles. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea “fisherman” over the fowl of the air, cattle, ranchers, herdsman, and every creeping thing on the earth hunters

Verse 27. God created both men and woman at the same time.

Verse 28. God blessed them and said unto them “plural, more than one”

Verse 29. God sets up some people to gather fruit, seeds and herbs,

Verse 30. All the animals shell eat off the land.

Verse 31. God looked at everything that He had made and He said it was good; very good.



Genesis 2.

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.



The 7th day God rested from all His work. God blessed the 7th day



4These are the generations “family history” of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Verse 4This is the time line for every thing that has been created up to this time.

Verse 5 Notice in this verse every plant of the field. There were no farm plants, no corn, no wheat . . . AND there was NO MAN: “ what about all the men and woman God just created on day 6 before He rested on day 7?” This is a different man to till the ground. To cultivate the ground, to farm the ground, to be the farmer. Different from the fishermen, hunters, gathers.

Verse 6. God brings a mist a dew, a watering of the ground so that everything can grow. With the mud that was created by this God does something with it and in verse 7 we will find out what that is.

Verse 7. And the LORD GOD formed man “The man Adam” The man that God would use to bring His people Israel into the world. Stop right here and go back to the end of day 6. What id God say about those men and woman “ They were good very good. God is not a raciest, God loves all His children. Remember the Song Jesus loves all the children of the world red and yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight.” The people that His son would be born into. He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. Did He give the people created on the 6th day a soul yes He did. He gave them a human soul a soul libel to die. Adam had the chance to live in the garden for ever, but different study for a different time.

I am not going to copy off the rest of chapter two we will just highlight it.

Verses 8-14 God creates the Garden of Eden for Adam.



Verses 15&16 God puts Adam into the garden to keep it. To be the gardener the farmer of the garden. God does tell Adam there is one tree the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Different time Different study is it really a tree.



Strong's Concordance

of the knowledge: Strong's Hebrew 1847: 1) knowledge 1a) knowledge, perception, skill 1b) discernment, understanding, wisdom



Verses 17-20 God brings the animals of the garden for Adam to name and see if any will make a good mate for him.



Verses 20-24. God takes a part of Adam and makes him a mate Woman Eve. How long has it been sense God created the men and women of the 6th day. Why were the women of the 6th day not brought to Adam for a wife? Just as Adam was to be the male line for His people God also knew that Eve would be the womb of his people.

Let me ask a question that I have asked before. Why did God make multiple men and women on day 6? We know where the Israelite came from Adam and Eve. That does not answer the question about all the races. This is why He created the men and women of the 6th day.

If you want to believe that all people came from Adam and Eve you have to believe in a form of evolution. There is no way that 2 people of the same race and have a baby of a third race. Just cannot happen. That is as realistic as a man being a berthing person.
Nope, only that you dont understand that God has createt first Adam and Eve. Means that this is wrong.
There are so many logical reasons for.
Sin came trough Adam and Eve into the World. The comparings between Adam and Jesus.
Finaly God says it in his word, so why mistrust God? Thats what Satan is doing: "should God has said.... ?. "
 
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I suppose asking for chapter and verse would be pointless, since there is nothing anywhere in Scripture even hinting at such a thing, which makes me wonder why anyone would assume such. In fact, it would be substantially more logical to assume Adam was created to be procreational, and that when woman was removed from him, she was likewise procreational, with the two needing to unite for that purpose. The contrary assumption rather leaves God seeming clueless regarding man's future.
The argument is based on the difference between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. The idea that an immortal being like Adam would have to procreate seems a bit extraneous. Why, because procreation is called genetic immortality by the atheist ilk. To believe that God is tied to procreation as some form of immortality is absurd.

Genesis 2 speaks of Adam in Eden and his role was a zoologist. His helper was to be chosen amongst the other animals. Why was Eve created? He moped. By this account alone, God's plan could be said to be a work in progress as they created Eve as second thought. If procreation was the primary plan, then Eve would have been created in tandem near simultaneous with Adam.

Does this mean God was clueless with respect to man's future? Not at all. It means that procreation was never the primary purpose of man's future. Procreation as the primary purpose is a conjecture as with any other conjecture (such as mine). Conjectures don't make good theology.

Conform Genesis 2:18-20 and keep the Glory of God. The logic of procreation does not on both points.
 
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You sound like you just want to argue, and attack everyone who does not agree with you. Your pride is showing

The facts are facts.

Was sex the REASON adam was created?? NO

But we see in Gen 1: 6 God commanded them to fill up the earth.

sorry bud, but for the human race, that does not happen apart from the sex act.

so your still wrong.
I don't attack, but I am quite blunt. It did sound like an atheist argument saying Adam was made with a penis, thus God made mankind for procreation. Vestigal appendage argument - evolution.

I guess you mean Gen 1:28?
What you say is correct, if you completely ignore Genesis 2:18-20. To ignore this is of rather detrimental to you second life.

Luke 20:35 said a thing or two about salvation. What does population growth have to do with salvation?
 

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I don't attack, but I am quite blunt. It did sound like an atheist argument saying Adam was made with a penis, thus God made mankind for procreation. Vestigal appendage argument - evolution.
Since I never made such a statement, You once again show you are in error.
I guess you mean Gen 1:28?
What you say is correct, if you completely ignore Genesis 2:18-20. To ignore this is of rather detrimental to you second life.

Luke 20:35 said a thing or two about salvation. What does population growth have to do with salvation?
I have no idea what this has to do with the conversation.

Please stick to the topic.
 
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Another illogical assumption completely unsupported by the text.
It is called the tree of life.

Rom 6:22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rev. 2:7He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to eat from the tree of life in the Paradise of God.

Rev 22:1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

What kind of life will be granted? Eternal,

Gen 3:22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
 
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Since I never made such a statement, You once again show you are in error.


I have no idea what this has to do with the conversation.

Please stick to the topic.
Here I quote post #103
"If adam was not made to be sexual. He would not have been created with the organs and tools to have sex and or procreate.
sometimes people just have to think "

Sure sounds like a vestigial appendage argument.

Here I quote post #108
"But we see in Gen 1: 6 God commanded them to fill up the earth."

The correct verse is
Gen 1:6And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.”
Is this what you meant?

Here I quote post #108
"sorry bud, but for the human race, that does not happen apart from the sex act."

The notion that God created the universe and earth to be populated is very primitive type of thinking. The universe was made for Jesus and by means of Jesus. According to you, for the sake of procreation. Am I wrong?