Adventists, Ellen G. White, failed prophecies and scripture

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tourist said:
My wife is SDA too.
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This thread is about Ellen White and her visions and prophecies.

It's not about your wife or anyone else. I don't know why you would even think to post that. I don't know your wife or you.

I doubt your wife has visions and gives prophecies that other people should follow. Does she?

There are plenty of people calling themself Christian that are problamatical...we are not interested in that either.

Again, consult the op. Your wife and her behavior are not my business and this is a thread is not about her.
 
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rrcn said:
How do you feel about her faith. In particular do you think she observes the Sabbath as a matter of willing obedience or legalism?
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Again, no one in this thread objects to people worshipping on Saturday. However, White believed you are cut off from God if you go to worship on a Sunday. And that is just the beginning of her over 2000 prophecies and ungodly visions. This thread has many sources to objectively prove the errors of the SDA cult. This is not about what day people go to church. The problems arise when White's doctrines are considered above scripture.
 
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kinda said:
Yes, definitely some great Bible teachers from SDA. Never heard of those you mentioned (except for Doug), might have to have a listen. I recently been looking at the youtube channel, it is written. Not sure who is teaching, but they have some prophecy stuff there.

Your gonna move back, well good for you. Can't be the weather, that is for sure. To have Doug as pastor, might be worth the cost of living. lol He is just bang on, breaks it up the teaching with a few jokes, and have an easy enough plat form to follow. The normally have some good computer graphics on those specials.
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You may want to checkout AudioVerse. It is a great resource.
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SabbathBlessing said:
Its stuff thats been around the internet for a long time that has all been refuted many times over. Even you take EGW out of the equation, it doesn't change anything about what God said. Trying to discredit EGW, does not change God's written and spoken Testimony Exo31:18 we will all have to answer to soon. Ecc12:13-14 John12:48 James2:11

God bless you guys and Happy Sabbath!
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kinda said:
Thanks for sharing. I might have to take a look at them. Been watching, it is written on youtube.

Honestly, I don't know where this contempt is coming from for the SDA church, it is really crazy. It reminds me of politics, how Liberals hate Trump like no other. I think it's just a spiritual matter. If anything, people should be like, why are churches keeping Sunday Sabbath?

I remember when I found out the Sabbath truth, I felt betrayed. I guess people prefer to be lied to and told lies?!?! Honestly, honestly can't see where this hatred is coming from.

Even in that video you posted, Doug was showing the video of people discrediting the SDA church, and they can't even think straight when talking about SDA. Like SDA shouldn't even be a denomination.. Like what? lol They just hate the SDA church, and have no reason to.

Like when I responded to that video pine posted, the first minute what just slander about SDA, but no content. Then when it started giving the dirt, one point was absolutely false, the other point was completely misguided. Of course no response on the points I made, but just got ignored. Your right, there is literally no point. People like the Catholic Church more than the SDA Church and that says a ton. When is the last time you seen a thread in Bible Study on the Catholic Church, now how many anti-SDA threads have you seen? lol

It's laughable. SDA isn't the enemy, the Catholic Church is. Go check your church fathers and they might be able to confirm this. Jesus kept Sabbath, why isn't the church?
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I like It Is Written too. :)

I think a lot of people will feel the way you did about the Sabbath as it becomes more prominent in the future. I think there will be a lot of people as well after sadly, it will be too late Rev22:11 The fact there is SO much contention behind the one commandment God said Remember, shows there is a real spiritual war over God's Sabbath and someone doing everything they can to prevent God's people from keeping it. Rev12:17 Sadly people do not seem to realize which side they are representing. What spirit the accuser of the brethern comes from and why he doesn't want us to join ourselves to the LORD. God invited everyone Isa56:6 He wants to bless everyone Isa56:2. People don't really fully understand what they are rejecting. Exo20:11 Mar 2:28 Rev14:7
 
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SabbathBlessing said:
I like It Is Written too. :)

I think a lot of people will feel the way you did about the Sabbath as it becomes more prominent in the future. I think there will be a lot of people as well after sadly, it will be too late Rev22:11 The fact there is SO much contention behind the one commandment God said Remember, shows there is a real spiritual war over God's Sabbath and someone doing everything they can to prevent God's people from keeping it. Rev12:17 Sadly people do not seem to realize which side they are representing. What spirit the accuser of the brethern comes from and why he doesn't want us to join ourselves to the LORD. God invited everyone Isa56:6 He wants to bless everyone Isa56:2. People don't really fully understand what they are rejecting. Exo20:11 Mar 2:28 Rev14:7
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Said Ellen White.
 
Doug Batchelor

"A person will receive the mark of the beast in his forehead by choosing to believe that SUNDAY is a holy day in spite of Bible truth. A person will be marked in the right hand by working on God’s Sabbath or by outwardly keeping Sunday laws for convenient reasons—such as a job, family, etc. Although the sign is invisible to men, God will know who has which mark."
(Source: Amazing Facts Study Guide, The Mark of the Beast)
 
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"The name Michael is another name for Jesus... Michael is just another title for our Lord and Savior... Michael the Archangel is the same person as the pre-incarnate Christ."
— Doug Batchelor, Amazing Facts: Who is Michael the Archangel?
 
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"We can do nothing that would close up the way before us in this country like taking a position of superiority and putting before the people that we consider them heathen. In truth they are worse than heathen, but this we are not to tell them."
— Ellen G. White, Manuscript Releases, Vol. 17, p. 333-334 (Letter 34, 1887)
 
I was shown that the third angel's message is the sealing message... and that no one can enter the holy city who does not observe the true Sabbath."
— Ellen G. White, Manuscript 7, 1850 (Also in Early Writings, p. 71)
 
Just_A__Follower said:
Doug Batchelor

"A person will receive the mark of the beast in his forehead by choosing to believe that SUNDAY is a holy day in spite of Bible truth. A person will be marked in the right hand by working on God’s Sabbath or by outwardly keeping Sunday laws for convenient reasons—such as a job, family, etc. Although the sign is invisible to men, God will know who has which mark."
(Source: Amazing Facts Study Guide, The Mark of the Beast)
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This is something that I don't think they advertise. However, since they think Jesus is coming back (again and again and again as per White who said His coming was any day many times over the course of quite a few years) they seem to think to bring it out of the closet of 'special' teachings only SDA members can fully comprehend.
 
"It was seen, also, that while the sin-offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, the scapegoat typified Satan, the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed... Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, who, in the execution of the judgment, must bear the final penalty."
— Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, p. 422
 
"The keeping of the first day of the week... is the worship of the beast; for the beast is a persecuting power."
— Ellen G. White, The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897
 
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"Instead of the prophecy of Daniel 8:14 referring to the purifying of the earth, it was now plain that it pointed to the closing work of our High Priest in heaven, the finishing of the atonement, and the preparing of the people to abide the day of His coming. He entered the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary to perform the closing work of atonement."
— Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, p. 422
 
"I saw that the slave-master will have to answer for the salvation of his slaves whom he has kept in ignorance; and the sins of the slaves will be visited upon the master. God cannot take to heaven the slave who has been kept in ignorance and degradation, knowing nothing of God or the Bible, fearing nothing but his master’s lash, and holding a lower position than the brutes. But He does the best thing for him that a compassionate God can do. He lets him be as though he had not been, while the master has to suffer the seven last plagues and then come up in the second resurrection and suffer the second, most awful death. Then the justice of God will be satisfied."
— Ellen G. White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 1, p. 193
 
"Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men."
— Ellen G. White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 75 (1864)
 
"There is a mix of the two races. The white and the black should not intermarry; for the Lord has not given any such permission. Such a marriage would result in a state of things that would be very confusing and discouraging. It would bring humiliation upon the children who would have to suffer the penalty of the parents’ indiscretion."
— Ellen G. White, Manuscript 7, 1896 (Published in Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 343)
 
"The colored people should not urge themselves into the society of the white people. They should have their own places of worship, and their own schools and institutions. This is the best way to avoid the prejudice of the white people, which would otherwise be stirred up to the injury of the work among the colored people."
— Ellen G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 9, p. 206-208 (1909)
 
"The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs, someone they could raise up as a great leader, to have charisma, so that he could gather the Arabs together, unite them, to create a mighty army that would eventually drive the Jews and the 'true' Christians out of Jerusalem. The Koran was actually written in Rome, and the person who was the mentor of Mohammed was a Roman Catholic monk.Khadija, the wife of Mohammed, was a Roman Catholic nun in a convent before she was given the mission to marry him and steer his prophetic career."
— Walter Veith, The Islamic Connection (Total Onslaught Series, Lecture 213)
 
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