Problem is that Jesus rose on the third day not after 3 days and 3 nights.
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Adventists, Ellen G. White, failed prophecies and scripture
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AI is good at reading the text and is an excellent tool.
That is not a commandment for mankind to obey a sabbath day.
Because the Noahide law does not command mankind to obey a sabbath.
You need a direct commandment given to the Gentiles that specifies, that Gentiles
must rest on a seventh day. The codified law was given to Israel at Mt Sinai and the
penalty for not obeying that commandment.
We are saved by grace which excludes the law.
Your talking about the former creation.
We are a new creation in Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
The old things were the law and and the old covenant.
Did we get a new covenant and a new commandment?
Yes we did.
Luke 22:20
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you
is the new covenant in My blood.
The law has been fulfilled and now we have a new covenant.
Do we also have a new commandment?
John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you
also love one another.
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
By grace we are saved through faith and not by sabbath obedience.
The fact that you base your doctrine off your own feelings pretty much discredits your screen name.
I already stated 3 full days and nights for Jonah.
Jonah did not get spat out until after 3 days and 3 nights.
Jesus rose ON the third day!
The bible does indeed state that Jesus rose on the third day.
Jesus was prophesied right from Genesis on. Stop worshipping a day and worship the One who created all the days.
You are lost for eternity if you think you can keep all 613 commandments to the perfection of God. It's not 10; it's 613. The
book of the law does not host 10...it has all 613 in it so there is no hope for anyone who thinks that Saturday worship is going
to turn the wrath of God away from them
If I ever, and I do mean EVER, would read anything about Jesus from you Judaizers, I would hold out hope. But no, it's just sabbath sabbath sabbath and in the meantime, Jesus is LORD OF THE SABBATH. He is Lord of all and not a day from OT instructions to Israelites who could not keep the 10, never mind 613
If, as you say, you have checked out the entire Bible, did you perhaps come across the New Testament? It will change your life if you read and study it.
I have attended worship services on both Saturday and Sunday. It really is not a complex subject. Look, not to be unkind, but I know the lady is your wife (I think you know who I mean) so you are kind of stuck in between. Regarding Sabbath rest, it's actually about Jesus and not a day of the week.
This video may help with understanding:
Got Questions is not my favorite site, but an easy explanation is good to start with.
Well exactly, right? I hope you see the irony in your post here. Do Judaizers focus on that fact? Nope. It's just sabbath sabbath sabbath.
What about the New Testament? Do you underestand that Judaizers leave out large portions of the New Testament? You absolutely cannot continue with the Old laws if you study the New Testament. This being true, engage an Adventist or 2 or any other Sabbatarian 'specialist' and you will be told that Paul is not really an apostle, therefore, he cannot be taken as seriously as he takes himself.
Only Paul IS an Apostle. Even Jesus original Disciples declared him to be so.
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When does a prophecy about Jesus first appear in the Bible? Any idea and if so, why is it where it is? And do you know of other places in OT that prophesy Jesus?
Oh one more
Why did God send Jesus in the first place?
After careful study regarding he above questions, or really even just a dusting, you should see who the actual big important person in scripture is.
Hint: It's not Moses
But you know, I'm thinking about the fact that Sabbatarians come into this thread and insult, mock and unfurl the flag of the
10 commandments; nothing to do with the actual op either.
So, if you consider Saturday to be your big special day, WHY do you come here and pick fights? Cause it's not a debate at this point.
And again, if you insist on the law, the book of the law, the actual book of the law, lists 613 items and not just the 10. You don't get to pick and choose.
Colossians 2 will redirect you. Paul WAS called by Jesus to be an Apostle; even the original disciples of Jesus acknowledged that so why don't you? You really think God told Ellen White Paul was a liar and the orignal 12 -1, were corrupt and got the message wrong?
10 commandments; nothing to do with the actual op either.
So, if you consider Saturday to be your big special day, WHY do you come here and pick fights? Cause it's not a debate at this point.
And again, if you insist on the law, the book of the law, the actual book of the law, lists 613 items and not just the 10. You don't get to pick and choose.
Colossians 2 will redirect you. Paul WAS called by Jesus to be an Apostle; even the original disciples of Jesus acknowledged that so why don't you? You really think God told Ellen White Paul was a liar and the orignal 12 -1, were corrupt and got the message wrong?
To you present day pharisees;
Ellen White is rejected as a prophet because; she, by her testimony presented in her writings, is supporting and proclaiming the Biblical obedience to God, ... as is Jesus and the Holy Spirit, which this world is rejecting.
Revelation 14: ( The Three Angels Message, to this last days generation, right before the Lord returns )
Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Jesus makes this statement in three specific Gospel passages: Mark 6:4, Matthew 13:57, and Luke 4:24.
Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their role in killing the prophets in Matthew 23:29-32, where He declares: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, and say, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' So you testify against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of the guilt of your fathers."
This condemnation is further intensified in Matthew 23:34-36, where Jesus states: "Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar."
The passage also includes a lament over Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37, where Jesus says, "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling."
Ellen White is rejected as a prophet because; she, by her testimony presented in her writings, is supporting and proclaiming the Biblical obedience to God, ... as is Jesus and the Holy Spirit, which this world is rejecting.
Revelation 14: ( The Three Angels Message, to this last days generation, right before the Lord returns )
Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Jesus makes this statement in three specific Gospel passages: Mark 6:4, Matthew 13:57, and Luke 4:24.
- Mark 6:4: Jesus says, "A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household."
- Matthew 13:57: Jesus states, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home."
- Luke 4:24: Jesus declares, "Truly I tell you, no prophet is accepted in his hometown."
Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their role in killing the prophets in Matthew 23:29-32, where He declares: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, and say, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' So you testify against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of the guilt of your fathers."
This condemnation is further intensified in Matthew 23:34-36, where Jesus states: "Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar."
The passage also includes a lament over Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37, where Jesus says, "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling."
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