it depends if you are pre,mid or post trib. I guess from the things you said in the last two post you are mid or post because pre tribs hold that the mark and the wrath begin after they are raptured known as "pre" tribulation.
All 7 trumpets have been blown, big discovery! Thoughts?
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Actually, it has nothing to do with pre, mid or post trib. The wrath of God will affect the entire earth, regardless of mark or no. For example, at the 4th bowl, the sun is given power to scorch the inhabitants of the earth with intense heat, with all inhabitants exposed to this judgment. When those demonic beings are released at the 5th Trumpet, only the 144,000 are protected. When a third of the earth and trees are burned up, do you think that it will only affect those with the mark? This is why Jesus warns believers to be watching and ready so that this day does not close on us like a trap.
Look at it basic, you believe that you see signs all around you right now in 2017 and that what you are seeing is the system of how we buy and sell is being either implemented or is about to. So if it is as you think then the two horned beast and the image is already here,in 2017 if not then someone else did the things in Rev.13 and the two horned beast when he comes didn’t do those things he simply said "hey lets use the same system already in place" so that would mean that the two horned beast was deceived and took the mark in place. The problem is in scripture the system used to buy and sell is something forced on mankind in opposition to a system they were using.
So if someone were to think that the current things they are seeing have anything to do with the beast or his image and mark the first thing they have to believe is that he is already here. So if they believe he is here and he is developing a system to use to buy and sell that would nullify the concept of thinking anyone would be raptured before, "pre".
So if someone were to think that the current things they are seeing have anything to do with the beast or his image and mark the first thing they have to believe is that he is already here. So if they believe he is here and he is developing a system to use to buy and sell that would nullify the concept of thinking anyone would be raptured before, "pre".
The beast is going to deceive people into worshipping a false image of God. Christians know that Christ is the image of God. Jesus said to beware of false Christs. John said that the spirit of the Antichrist was already in the world.
Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The man child to rule all nations with a rod of iron is Jesus Christ.
Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
However, there is another description of the woman in the wilderness.
Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Let's follow that description of seven heads and ten horns.
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
So the devil was waiting to devour Christ as soon as he was born. We know that Jesus escaped death as a child when his parents fled to Egypt, and that he resisted all temptations from the devil, and that he fulfilled God's will to redeem us of our sins.
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
You see now that both good and bad seeds were put into the church. They all call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, but some he never knew.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
The Christian church will continue to persecute those who do not believe all the lies, that no man might buy or sell except those who sell lies.
Do I know the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth? Nope, but I have a pretty good idea that we'll all learn sooner or later.
Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The man child to rule all nations with a rod of iron is Jesus Christ.
Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
However, there is another description of the woman in the wilderness.
Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Let's follow that description of seven heads and ten horns.
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
So the devil was waiting to devour Christ as soon as he was born. We know that Jesus escaped death as a child when his parents fled to Egypt, and that he resisted all temptations from the devil, and that he fulfilled God's will to redeem us of our sins.
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
You see now that both good and bad seeds were put into the church. They all call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, but some he never knew.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
The Christian church will continue to persecute those who do not believe all the lies, that no man might buy or sell except those who sell lies.
Do I know the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth? Nope, but I have a pretty good idea that we'll all learn sooner or later.
And another looks and sees that it is fulfilled in the days prior. And seeing it in days prior then would mean that if it is fulfilled then by all means yes there is nothing hindering the wrath let the trumpets sound.
No they have not yet occured.
Proof of that is this one did not happen yet:
Mattithyah 24:29-31, "Immediately, but after the tribulation of those days will the sun be darkened, and the moon will not give her light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven; and then will all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His malakim with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of earth to the other."
1 Corinthians 15:50-54, "Now I say this brothers: that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of YHWH; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.Behold, I show you a secret truth: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible will have put on incorruption, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory."
1 Corinthians 15:50-54, "Now I say this brothers: that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of YHWH; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.Behold, I show you a secret truth: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible will have put on incorruption, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory."
Prophetic you say? Hmm..
5 Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it IS cut off from your mouth.
6*For a nation IS come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion.
7*He HATH laid my vine waste, and barked my fig tree: he HATH made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are made white.
8*Lament like a virgin girded with sackcloth for the husband of her youth.
9*The meat offering and the drink offering IS cut off from the house of the Lord; the priests, the Lord's ministers, mourn.
10*The field IS wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn IS wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth.
11*BE YE ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field IS perished.
12*The vine IS dried up, and the fig tree languiseth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, ARE withered: BECAUSE JOY IS withered away from the sons of men.
I don't see much foretelling. There is a lot of "telling how it is".. doesn't say "shall be" or "prophecy ye" anywhere in there. This happened.
If we look at the days of old and the thing in general that was thought among the early Church although we do not perceive the letters they wrote as scripture it was still the general thought.
In their letters there was never an Idea that these things had been fulfilled if not one of them would have said "and he set the image in the Holy place and we were forced to bow down to it but we did not perceive it as God. ". And at a glance it might seem fulfilled but who were deceived and believed it was God and bought and sold with their money?
And after the apostles were all asleep the Church spoke in their letters as if they were all still looking forward into the future for the AoD and the mark. As if they had been deceived they spoke as if none of those who had been among the apostles had said the image was this and the AoD was that not Timothy nor Titus not Luke nor Mark not any of them said the next Church leaders that it was fulfilled in their minds . All in the next generation who wrote of it continued to look for it in the future.
In their letters there was never an Idea that these things had been fulfilled if not one of them would have said "and he set the image in the Holy place and we were forced to bow down to it but we did not perceive it as God. ". And at a glance it might seem fulfilled but who were deceived and believed it was God and bought and sold with their money?
And after the apostles were all asleep the Church spoke in their letters as if they were all still looking forward into the future for the AoD and the mark. As if they had been deceived they spoke as if none of those who had been among the apostles had said the image was this and the AoD was that not Timothy nor Titus not Luke nor Mark not any of them said the next Church leaders that it was fulfilled in their minds . All in the next generation who wrote of it continued to look for it in the future.
That doesn't prove anything. It's not specified as "the 7th Angel sounding".. as a matter of fact, that big last trump is not the trump of the "7th angels trumpet", the final trump is the trumpet of God!! NOT the 7th angel. See for yourself my friend:
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first." ( 1 Thessalonians 1:1 Luke 4:16 )
My interpretation of Revelation has yet to be proven wrong and my evidence is yet to be dismissed.. I'm kinda suprised. Let's get in our Bibles family
The 7 trumpets have not all sounded,which the 7th trumpet is the resurrection of the saints for it happens at the last trumpet,and we know that it did not happen,and don't go freaking me out and say that it did.
The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters that happen on earth that the world knows about,as warnings to the world to turn to God,but after each trumpet they keep trying to solve their problems instead of turning to God.After the 6th trumpet God said they will still not repent of their evil ways,and turn to Him,so God gives them the beast to rule over them.
An example is WW1 and WW2.After those wars they did not turn to God but because of WW1 they set up League of Nations,and after WW2 they set up United Nations,trying to solve their problems and achieve peace by their own efforts.That pattern will continue until the 6th trumpet,which they still will not turn to God,so God gives them the beast to rule over them.
So the 7 trumpets have to occur when there is advanced travel and advanced technology,where the world has knowledge of what goes on in the world.
Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
This surely did not happen in the past,a 200,000,000 men army that makes war,and nuclear weapons are launched taking out one third of the population of the planet,which after this terrible war the world will still not turn to God to help them,and God gives them the beast to rule over them.
This will be the time of the unified religious system,which I believe it will be the religion of Islam rebelling against the unified religious system,for it is all religions together,with a false interpretation of Christianity,Islam,and Judaism,and all are valid for spiritual enlightenment.The religion of Islam will say it is an insult to Allah,and the way it operates,with a false interpretation of Islam that outrages the religion of Islam,for their religion is done in the eyes of the world the way they practice it with a personal God,and they have no choice but to rebel,for they will not let them extend their religion for all are valid,and it will be a hate crime to try to convert someone to your religion.
But that is the plan of the man of sin take down the big three who have a belief in a personal God,first Islam,then Christianity,then against Israel,which is when God's fury shall come up in His face,and He will come with His saints,and save Israel,and punish the world for their sins and iniquities against Him.
This war sure did not happen back in the past,for did a 200,000,000 men army fight against another army,and a third of the world dies,and nuclear weapons are launched.
Hello JesusRules1,
The seven trumpets are judgments of God's wrath. There is no blessings associated with them. There is nothing in the context to support the 7th trumpet as being the "last trumpet." Just because there are seven trumpet judgments, does not mean that the 7th one is the last trumpet spoken of in 1 Cor.15:52.
Another reason is that, by making the 7th trumpet the "last trumpet," it would put the church through all of the seals and trumpet judgments, which are the majority of God's wrath and which believers in Christ are not appointed to suffer. The last trumpet of 1 Cor.15:52 must be the last of a specific type of trumpet, as there are different types of trumpets throughout scripture, but it has nothing to do with the 7th trumpet.
After the sounding of the 4th trumpet and prior to the 5th trumpet, the following announcement is made:
"Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!”
I personally believe that the reason that trumpets 5,6 and 7 are referred to as "Woes" is because each of these trumpet plagues are demonic in nature:
5th Trumpet: An angel opens the Abyss releasing demonic beings who are commanded to torment the inhabitants of the earth with the stings like that of a scorpion. We know that they are demons for Rev.9:14 says that they have a king over them who is the angel of the Abyss. We also know that they are not real locusts because of their characteristics (Faces like human faces, hair like women's hair, teeth like lions teeth, etc.).
6th Trumpet: Four evil angels who are bound at the Euphrates River are released and they gather a demonic army of 200 million who kill a third of the inhabitants of the earth. Someone, somewhere, labeled these 200 million as being the armies of the kings of the east and everyone just adopted that as being true, which it is not. First of all, it is angels killing a third of the inhabitants, not angels getting men to kill men. And second, there is nothing whatsoever to link those 200 million as being the kings of the east. And 3rd, what horses do you know that can spew fire, smoke and sulfur from their mouths?
7th Trumpet: There will be a war in heaven between Michael and his angels vs. Satan and his angels, who will be thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth, which prompts the following from those who dwell in heaven:
"Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”
The reference to Satan's time being short, is that he and his angels are cast out of heaven and down to the earth at the midway point of the seven years, which means that he knows that he only has 3 1/2 years until the Lord returns to the earth. where at which time he will be thrown into the Abyss and restricted there during Christ's thousand year reign.
The seven trumpets are judgments of God's wrath. There is no blessings associated with them. There is nothing in the context to support the 7th trumpet as being the "last trumpet." Just because there are seven trumpet judgments, does not mean that the 7th one is the last trumpet spoken of in 1 Cor.15:52.
Another reason is that, by making the 7th trumpet the "last trumpet," it would put the church through all of the seals and trumpet judgments, which are the majority of God's wrath and which believers in Christ are not appointed to suffer. The last trumpet of 1 Cor.15:52 must be the last of a specific type of trumpet, as there are different types of trumpets throughout scripture, but it has nothing to do with the 7th trumpet.
After the sounding of the 4th trumpet and prior to the 5th trumpet, the following announcement is made:
"Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!”
I personally believe that the reason that trumpets 5,6 and 7 are referred to as "Woes" is because each of these trumpet plagues are demonic in nature:
5th Trumpet: An angel opens the Abyss releasing demonic beings who are commanded to torment the inhabitants of the earth with the stings like that of a scorpion. We know that they are demons for Rev.9:14 says that they have a king over them who is the angel of the Abyss. We also know that they are not real locusts because of their characteristics (Faces like human faces, hair like women's hair, teeth like lions teeth, etc.).
6th Trumpet: Four evil angels who are bound at the Euphrates River are released and they gather a demonic army of 200 million who kill a third of the inhabitants of the earth. Someone, somewhere, labeled these 200 million as being the armies of the kings of the east and everyone just adopted that as being true, which it is not. First of all, it is angels killing a third of the inhabitants, not angels getting men to kill men. And second, there is nothing whatsoever to link those 200 million as being the kings of the east. And 3rd, what horses do you know that can spew fire, smoke and sulfur from their mouths?
7th Trumpet: There will be a war in heaven between Michael and his angels vs. Satan and his angels, who will be thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth, which prompts the following from those who dwell in heaven:
"Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”
The reference to Satan's time being short, is that he and his angels are cast out of heaven and down to the earth at the midway point of the seven years, which means that he knows that he only has 3 1/2 years until the Lord returns to the earth. where at which time he will be thrown into the Abyss and restricted there during Christ's thousand year reign.
That doesn't prove anything. It's not specified as "the 7th Angel sounding".. as a matter of fact, that big last trump is not the trump of the "7th angels trumpet", the final trump is the trumpet of God!! NOT the 7th angel. See for yourself my friend:
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first." ( 1 Thessalonians 1:1 Luke 4:16 )
My interpretation of Revelation has yet to be proven wrong and my evidence is yet to be dismissed.. I'm kinda suprised. Let's get in our Bibles family
Hello SpiritLed,
I completely agree with you that the 7th trumpet is not the last trumpet, for the seven trumpets are plagues of wrath and not blessings. However the "trumpet call of God" in 1 Thes.4:16, is the last trumpet. If you will look at 1 Cor.15:52, Paul is speaking about the same event in 1 Thes.4:16. Compare the two scriptures below:
"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."
"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
Conclusion: The trumpet call of God and the last trumpet are synonymous
That is exactly what I was trying to say my friend
I was merely trying to correct all of these people that think the trumpet of the 7th angel (which has already been blown) is the same as the synonymous trumpets in 1 Thes. 4:16 & 1 Corinthians 15:52. Sorry if my message came off wrong, I was rushed on my break at work when I wrote it. I agree and have always known that the "trumpet call of God" & "the last trumpet" are the same. Much love Ahwatukee
Sorry SpiritLed
I disagree. I believe we to be somewhere around the 5th trump just my belief nothing Biblical. As for the mark of the Beast Revelation 13:16-18 explains it. To receive the mark in their right hand simply means to perform Satan's work you are willing to work for him . The mark in the forehead means he is who you have in your mind as being Christ. This 666 is like it says the number of his name. He shows up at the six Seal the six Vial six Trump. Jesus return is at the seventh Seal the seventh Vial and the seventh Trump.
I disagree. I believe we to be somewhere around the 5th trump just my belief nothing Biblical. As for the mark of the Beast Revelation 13:16-18 explains it. To receive the mark in their right hand simply means to perform Satan's work you are willing to work for him . The mark in the forehead means he is who you have in your mind as being Christ. This 666 is like it says the number of his name. He shows up at the six Seal the six Vial six Trump. Jesus return is at the seventh Seal the seventh Vial and the seventh Trump.
The 7th trumpet in Revelation is NOT the same as "the last trump" in 1 Corinthians 15:52.
The 7th trumpet in Revelation is NOT the second coming.
You said "I disagree, I believe we to be around the 5th, just my belief nothing biblical.... "
Considering your understanding of Revelations is *admittedly* unbiblical and foolish, the fact that you "disagree" absolutely irrelevant.
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people need to stop using their kitchen aids to reduce scripture to their views on demi tasse preterism, big cup Java preterism and pre, midway and post 'rapture'
this thead is a recipe for disaster
no...the trumpets have not been blown, but that does not seem to stop folks from blowing their own horn of understanding
the copy/paste scriptures that are used to form the central theme of this thread, no more fit together than a forumula 1 racing car engine in a skateboard
this thead is a recipe for disaster
no...the trumpets have not been blown, but that does not seem to stop folks from blowing their own horn of understanding
the copy/paste scriptures that are used to form the central theme of this thread, no more fit together than a forumula 1 racing car engine in a skateboard