All 7 trumpets have been blown, big discovery! Thoughts?
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It was blown in the times of Joel.
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;[SUP]2 [/SUP]A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Take of them of the captivity, even of Heldai, of Tobijah, and of Jedaiah, which are come from Babylon, and come thou the same day, and go into the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah;
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;[SUP]2 [/SUP]A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Take of them of the captivity, even of Heldai, of Tobijah, and of Jedaiah, which are come from Babylon, and come thou the same day, and go into the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah;
Good evening GeorgieDog,
Just FYI, you can't have the 1st trumpet sounding until the seals have been opened and completed , which hasn't happened yet. The result of the 4th seal will be a fourth of the earth's population being killed, which based on 7 billion people, would be 1.7 billion fatalities and that during the first 3 1/2 years of that last seven year period. Needless to say, that hasn't happened yet. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are not going to be passive plagues of wrath that go unnoticed in the background of history, but will have everyone's attention, as they are meant to.
The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be the result of the Rock falling on the feet of the statue described in Dan.2:31-45. And the result of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments is also found in the prophecy of Zephaniah:
"I will sweep away everything from the face of the earth, says the Lord. I will sweep away people and animals alike. I will sweep away the birds of the sky and the fish in the sea. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,and I will wipe humanity from the face of the earth, says the Lord."
The 1st seal, the rider on the white horse, represents the revealing of that antichrist and he has not yet been revealed. Therefore, no other seal, trumpet or bowl judgment can take place until that 1st seal is opened. But you are correct in that, we should always be watching and ready for the Lord's return to gather his church.
Just FYI, you can't have the 1st trumpet sounding until the seals have been opened and completed , which hasn't happened yet. The result of the 4th seal will be a fourth of the earth's population being killed, which based on 7 billion people, would be 1.7 billion fatalities and that during the first 3 1/2 years of that last seven year period. Needless to say, that hasn't happened yet. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are not going to be passive plagues of wrath that go unnoticed in the background of history, but will have everyone's attention, as they are meant to.
The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be the result of the Rock falling on the feet of the statue described in Dan.2:31-45. And the result of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments is also found in the prophecy of Zephaniah:
"I will sweep away everything from the face of the earth, says the Lord. I will sweep away people and animals alike. I will sweep away the birds of the sky and the fish in the sea. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,and I will wipe humanity from the face of the earth, says the Lord."
The 1st seal, the rider on the white horse, represents the revealing of that antichrist and he has not yet been revealed. Therefore, no other seal, trumpet or bowl judgment can take place until that 1st seal is opened. But you are correct in that, we should always be watching and ready for the Lord's return to gather his church.
None of the trumpets could of taken place way back then as some people believe.
The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters,or warnings,that occur at the time there is advanced travel,and advanced technology,so the world knows about these disasters,but after each trumpet the world still cooperates with each other to establish peace on earth,and do not repent of their evil ways,and turn to God.
After the 6th trumpet where nuclear weapons are launched,and a third of the population of the world dies,they still do not turn to God,so God gives them the beast to rule over them,which all who do not love God will follow the beast kingdom,in which they will make war against the saints,and shall destroy the holy and mighty people,and when they shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,then the 7th trumpet blows,the resurrection of the saints.
God always gives warnings before He is going to crack down on the wicked,a chance to get right and turn to Him,but if they do not after a certain amount of time,then He cracks down on them.
The 6 trumpets is that warning to the world to turn to Him,and that they do not have the capability to solve their problems,and achieve peace without God,which they are cutting out of the picture.
That is why the Bible says when they say Peace and safety,then sudden destruction comes upon them,for then it will get chaotic with people leaning on themselves to achieve peace on earth,but cannot do it,until a war breaks out that involves the whole world,a 200,000,000 men army against the world,the religion of Islam,that fights a holy war against the world,because of the unified religious system,and nuclear weapons devastate the Arab nations,which the world will be split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,the ten horn kingdom,and the last king plucks up three of those horns by the roots.
The trumpets could of not happened back then as some people believe,but are warnings to the world to turn to God,which God always gives warnings to give people a chance to turn to Him,before He cracks down on them,which He did the same with Sodom and Gomorrah with the 2 angels in the form of men,which they stayed at Lot's house,and the city surrounded Lot's house,and told Lot to bring the 2 men out so they could have sex with them,but Lot said take my 2 daughters instead,but they persisted on the 2 men,and not one person cried out let us not do this wicked deed,either wanting to participate,or complying to it,so the 2 men took Lot and His family out of the city,and then overthrew the cities.
God gave Israel warning for a time before He cracked down on them if they did not comply.
When they shall say Peace and safety,the world coming together trying to solve their problems,and have peace,then sudden destruction comes upon them,and the 6 trumpets is the world's warnings to turn to God,for they cannot achieve peace on their own,and the 6 trumpets should be testimony to that,but they keep trying to do it on their own,so God then gives them the beast to rule over them,and then will crack down on them.
The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters,or warnings,that occur at the time there is advanced travel,and advanced technology,so the world knows about these disasters,but after each trumpet the world still cooperates with each other to establish peace on earth,and do not repent of their evil ways,and turn to God.
After the 6th trumpet where nuclear weapons are launched,and a third of the population of the world dies,they still do not turn to God,so God gives them the beast to rule over them,which all who do not love God will follow the beast kingdom,in which they will make war against the saints,and shall destroy the holy and mighty people,and when they shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,then the 7th trumpet blows,the resurrection of the saints.
God always gives warnings before He is going to crack down on the wicked,a chance to get right and turn to Him,but if they do not after a certain amount of time,then He cracks down on them.
The 6 trumpets is that warning to the world to turn to Him,and that they do not have the capability to solve their problems,and achieve peace without God,which they are cutting out of the picture.
That is why the Bible says when they say Peace and safety,then sudden destruction comes upon them,for then it will get chaotic with people leaning on themselves to achieve peace on earth,but cannot do it,until a war breaks out that involves the whole world,a 200,000,000 men army against the world,the religion of Islam,that fights a holy war against the world,because of the unified religious system,and nuclear weapons devastate the Arab nations,which the world will be split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,the ten horn kingdom,and the last king plucks up three of those horns by the roots.
The trumpets could of not happened back then as some people believe,but are warnings to the world to turn to God,which God always gives warnings to give people a chance to turn to Him,before He cracks down on them,which He did the same with Sodom and Gomorrah with the 2 angels in the form of men,which they stayed at Lot's house,and the city surrounded Lot's house,and told Lot to bring the 2 men out so they could have sex with them,but Lot said take my 2 daughters instead,but they persisted on the 2 men,and not one person cried out let us not do this wicked deed,either wanting to participate,or complying to it,so the 2 men took Lot and His family out of the city,and then overthrew the cities.
God gave Israel warning for a time before He cracked down on them if they did not comply.
When they shall say Peace and safety,the world coming together trying to solve their problems,and have peace,then sudden destruction comes upon them,and the 6 trumpets is the world's warnings to turn to God,for they cannot achieve peace on their own,and the 6 trumpets should be testimony to that,but they keep trying to do it on their own,so God then gives them the beast to rule over them,and then will crack down on them.
Good evening SpiritLed! Hope all is well with you. Well, in answer to the question, a third of the earth and trees have not yet been burned up
We have not seen a third of the creatures over all the oceans killed, nor a third of the ships over all the earth destroyed.
We have not seen something like a huge torch falling to the earth and contaminating a third of the rivers and fresh water so that many people die from drinking it.
We have not seen the sun, moon and stars darkened by a third so that the earth only receives two thirds of its normal light both day and night.
We have not seen demonic beings released from the Abyss to torment the inhabitants of the earth with tails and stings like that of scorpions.
We have not seen the results of the four evil angels and their demonic army of 200 million having killed a third of the earth's population with fire, smoke and sulfur.
We have not seen the results of Satan and his angels being cast down to the earth which is the 7th trumpet/3rd woe.
In answer to your question, we must refer back to scripture and realize that these seven trumpet plagues of wrath, along with the seals and bowl judgment, should be interpreted at face value, making room for metaphors and symbolisms of course and looking for the literal meaning behind them.
Unless the events of wrath listed above have taken place, then the trumpets could not have possibly taken place. The only way that some make the claim of them being fulfilled is by allegorizing them or by assigning them to past historical events and by doing so they take away the severity and magnitude of God's wrath. Yet regarding the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period, referred to as "the great tribulation" Jesus said that it would be a time of great tribulation such as the world has not seen from the beginning, until now and never to be equaled again. And if those days of wrath were allowed to go on any longer than the specified time, there would be no one left alive on the earth.
We have not seen a third of the creatures over all the oceans killed, nor a third of the ships over all the earth destroyed.
We have not seen something like a huge torch falling to the earth and contaminating a third of the rivers and fresh water so that many people die from drinking it.
We have not seen the sun, moon and stars darkened by a third so that the earth only receives two thirds of its normal light both day and night.
We have not seen demonic beings released from the Abyss to torment the inhabitants of the earth with tails and stings like that of scorpions.
We have not seen the results of the four evil angels and their demonic army of 200 million having killed a third of the earth's population with fire, smoke and sulfur.
We have not seen the results of Satan and his angels being cast down to the earth which is the 7th trumpet/3rd woe.
In answer to your question, we must refer back to scripture and realize that these seven trumpet plagues of wrath, along with the seals and bowl judgment, should be interpreted at face value, making room for metaphors and symbolisms of course and looking for the literal meaning behind them.
Unless the events of wrath listed above have taken place, then the trumpets could not have possibly taken place. The only way that some make the claim of them being fulfilled is by allegorizing them or by assigning them to past historical events and by doing so they take away the severity and magnitude of God's wrath. Yet regarding the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period, referred to as "the great tribulation" Jesus said that it would be a time of great tribulation such as the world has not seen from the beginning, until now and never to be equaled again. And if those days of wrath were allowed to go on any longer than the specified time, there would be no one left alive on the earth.
Good evening to you as well my friend 
We will not see the demonic horsemen (locusts) because they were on the earth during the great day of the Lord in the times of Joel.
1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2*A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, *******NEITHER SHALL THETE BE ANY MORE AFTER IT, EVEN TO THE YEARS OF MANY GENERATIONS.******* Joel 2:1-2
Glory, Power, and Majesty be forever to the One who is able to keep us from falling. Amen.
We will not see the demonic horsemen (locusts) because they were on the earth during the great day of the Lord in the times of Joel.
1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2*A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, *******NEITHER SHALL THETE BE ANY MORE AFTER IT, EVEN TO THE YEARS OF MANY GENERATIONS.******* Joel 2:1-2
Glory, Power, and Majesty be forever to the One who is able to keep us from falling. Amen.
the Apostle John recorded an amazing prophecy: “And the number of the army of the horsemen
were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them” (Revelation 9:16).
That means an army of 200 million men! That is more people than were alive in the world
when that prophecy was recorded. This is an end-time prophecy that we are certain to
see fulfilled very soon.
were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them” (Revelation 9:16).
That means an army of 200 million men! That is more people than were alive in the world
when that prophecy was recorded. This is an end-time prophecy that we are certain to
see fulfilled very soon.
“That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness
and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick
darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against
the high towers. And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like
blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall
be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung” (Zephaniah 1:15-17).
The Day of the Lord and the Great Tribulation are a time of judgment, distress, alarm and rivers
of bloodshed! You can find terrifying prophecies about this in both the Old and New Testaments.
and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick
darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against
the high towers. And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like
blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall
be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung” (Zephaniah 1:15-17).
The Day of the Lord and the Great Tribulation are a time of judgment, distress, alarm and rivers
of bloodshed! You can find terrifying prophecies about this in both the Old and New Testaments.
Actually, what you are reading in Joel is regarding the future, which may be synonymous with the 5th trumpet. Just because it is mentioned in Joel doesn't mean that prophecy has already taken place. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are future, end-time events leading up to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments is how God is going to carry out his wrath. In Rev.16, Jesus makes it very clear that at the pouring out of the 6th bowl, he will not have yet returned to the earth, but does so after the 7th bowl is poured out.
The day of the Lord has not yet taken place. The words "NEITHER SHALL THERE BE ANY MORE AFTER IT, EVEN TO THE YEARS OF MANY GENERATIONS" is speaking of the time of God's wrath when it takes place in the future. The day of the Lord will continue right up to the time that Jesus returns to the earth to end the age. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are not meant to passively take place in the background of history, but will have everyone's attention. No one will have to ask whether or not the tribulation is taking place, for it will be very apparent.
Hello prove-all,
When the 6th trumpet is sounded, the scripture states that those angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates are released to kill a third of mankind. The scripture says, "those angels" and their 200 million troops kill a third of mankind, not men killing men, but "angels" killing mankind. The army that they gather are demonic beings and not the army of the kings of the east as some have erroneously claimed. The 6th trumpet is going to be an army of 200 million demonic beings who will kill a third of mankind.
When the 6th trumpet is sounded, the scripture states that those angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates are released to kill a third of mankind. The scripture says, "those angels" and their 200 million troops kill a third of mankind, not men killing men, but "angels" killing mankind. The army that they gather are demonic beings and not the army of the kings of the east as some have erroneously claimed. The 6th trumpet is going to be an army of 200 million demonic beings who will kill a third of mankind.
Hello prove-all,
I think that you mistakenly responded regarding the 5th trumpet instead of the 6th trumpet. My response was regarding the 6th trumpet regarding those four angels and their 200 million troops. Your response is regarding the 5th trumpet and those demonic beings that come up out of the Abyss. But, since you brought it up, if we look at the entire context of the 5th trumpet, at first look it appear that they could be flying machines, but the rest of the context would not support that theory. What I mean is 1) an angel releases these things from out of the Abyss and 2) it is stated that they have a king over them, which is the angel of the Abyss. In addition, when that angel opens the Abyss, smoke comes out of it like a giant furnace.
The Abyss that these demonic beings come out of, is the same place where those demonic beings collectively called "Legion" begged Jesus not to send them into as described in Luke 8:30. I don't know of any helicopter bases in the Abyss that would be billowing with smoke and with an angel as their commanding officer, do you?
Morning buddyt,
Just FYI, The context reveals that it is angels killing a third of mankind, not mankind killing mankind. Someone at sometime came up with the idea that the 200 million are the kings of the east. But there is nothing in the context that supports the 200 million troops as being the kings of the east.
Also, how many horses do you know of that have fire, smoke and sulfur issuing from their mouths?
Just FYI, The context reveals that it is angels killing a third of mankind, not mankind killing mankind. Someone at sometime came up with the idea that the 200 million are the kings of the east. But there is nothing in the context that supports the 200 million troops as being the kings of the east.
Also, how many horses do you know of that have fire, smoke and sulfur issuing from their mouths?
"The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind. The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.
"They" the angels, were released to kill a third of mankind, not men killing men, but angels killing men.
After the 4th trumpet and prior to the 5th trumpet , a warning is issued regarding trumpets 5,6 and 7 as being "Woes." I personally believe that the reason that they are referred to as "woes" is because the last three trumpets are each demonic in nature.
5th trumpet = Demonic beings released from the Abyss to torment with tails and stings like scorpions
6th trumpet = Four evil angels released and who gather 200 million demonic beings who kill a third of mankind
7th trumpet = Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth
"They" the angels, were released to kill a third of mankind, not men killing men, but angels killing men.
After the 4th trumpet and prior to the 5th trumpet , a warning is issued regarding trumpets 5,6 and 7 as being "Woes." I personally believe that the reason that they are referred to as "woes" is because the last three trumpets are each demonic in nature.
5th trumpet = Demonic beings released from the Abyss to torment with tails and stings like scorpions
6th trumpet = Four evil angels released and who gather 200 million demonic beings who kill a third of mankind
7th trumpet = Satan and his angels thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth