your sect resorts to this regularly. provide the post number where i said Christ wasnt from the beginning. wasnt what by the way. and while you are at it, get the posts where anyone said God is bad and kill the law.
AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?
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your sect resorts to this regularly. provide the post number where i said Christ wasnt from the beginning. wasnt what by the way. and while you are at it, get the posts where anyone said God is bad and kill the law.
sorry miss print
im now beginning to see until gentiles except Jews there can be no peace, and until Jews excepts gentiles also. and I feel until this happens there can be no new Jerusalem until this happens i feal God will not live among his people until they do, the prohesy of the new heaven and new earth ,, i believe THIS truly and isn't it not worth changing for just to see if may be true ? God bless
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ex-cept
preposition: with the exclusion of; excluding; save; but:" They were all there except me. "
ac-cept
verb (used with object): to take or receive (something offered); receive with approval or favor:
What exactly are you trying to say?
I thought I was promoting not going back. But then I feel absolutely certain that Christ didn't destroy any of the Torah that I think teaches the fundamentals of who Christ and God is. I thought that I was submitting to the new priesthood. I also think that we must not be afraid to look at how God set up the old priesthood that has been replaced. I didn't think that, in any way, was teaching to not follow Christ in the new priesthood. It is only teaching to understand the new priesthood better.
It is like going into a new house. You live in the house. But you can know all about the foundation that the house is built on. You wouldn't live in that foundation, nor take it away.
I want no one, absolutely no one to follow me if I lead away from any of scripture, I am nothing scripture is everything, the word. In Paul's day, even Paul was tested by scripture by true Christians. Boy I can tell you, I am NO Paul. I need to have every word put up to scripture. It is when it isn't scripture that I am put up against.
"My sect" is scripture. And there is no way I am going to spend time going back through all the stuff you teach. We do not agree on what is changed through Christ, are you now saying we do? We do not agree on what is made obsolete through Christ, are you saying now we do? We don't agree on what part of the law is to be ignored, or how or why it is to be ignored, are you saying now we do? How could Christ be from the beginning, and everything changed at the same time? After you make these statements, do you now retract them?
I will answer. I am not free from doing things that are sin, though I try. However, if I let the Spirit guide me there is no violation. Therefore my mistakes, if you will, are not held against me so that when I sin it becomes not sin if in the spirit. Many will say that I am trying to say that this give a license to sin. But we all know that it gives us the hope to be like Jesus (or at least it should). Without sin - Yes, but only because my sins are removed in Jesus.
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Why not? Explain.
Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” [SUP]59 [/SUP][SUP][/SUP]Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple.
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Judgement has never been "redefined". It means one thing, and one thing only. Always has and always will.
Do you not understand what you just did?
You claimed he did something
He asked you to prove it
You said "And there is no way I am going to spend time going back through all the stuff you teach."
If you cant prove it, then don't make an argument against it. All he is saying is that he never said what you claim he said. If you can not prove it, then you made it up.
Have you read his posts? I can prove that he said what he said, I refuse to take the time to go back over them, that is not saying I can not prove it. Why not respond to my post, instead of asking me to spend my time as you request? He is misrepresenting God. Check for yourself. Take what he says and look at scripture for verification. You would have to discount some of scripture to say he was accurate. Scripture is precise and accurate, and each scripture must verify every other scripture or it is misread. And the idea that when Christ made His monumental changes, He changed God is not so.
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phil112
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There were no "changes" as you like to call God's plan. It was His plan before the world was created. The Old Testament law was superceded by the New Covenant, ushered in with Christ. That was the plan from the beginning. There was no "God changed His mind", as you like to accuse others of saying.
You are clinging to a doctrine that will cause you to perish, and yet you refuse to see the light. Your heart and ears are uncircumsized. Christ is talking to you, red, are you ever going to listen????
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God is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow. That does not mean statutes and traditions can not be changed. As you read the words from Jesus then go back to the old testament you can see the differences. If you can not then you are blinded and need to pray to God to open your eyes to understanding. There are multiple scriptures in the new testament that show we are not held by the same traditions as the old testament.
even while His testimony was under Torah, and completes it, now Christ is the foundation, & of a priesthood before Aaron, but we look for Him to reign with His perfect law on earth -- He was, and is, and is to come
It isn't only that you are clinging to doctrine that makes it impossible for Christ to give you grace, but you are teaching others this deadly doctrine.
You are, though, beginning to understand some truth. God's plan stays the same from the beginning. That, at least is truth.
It is your blindness to the sameness of God's eternal truths that is causing your death. You can comprehend that Christ has come, and through Him is forgiveness, you have that truth at least. It is separating Christ from His Father that gives you such problems. Christ and the Father is one, if you know one you know the other.
The old law was death for all. Through Jesus we can be saved. Judgment of death has been changed for all that accept Jesus. Without Him no one is saved.