Another shooting. Defending the indefensible.

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HealthAndHappiness

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Looks like Elon Musk was all about "free speech" until it is no longer convenient to let free speech take its course. So Musk wants to have it both ways. Now he is censoring discussions about this shooting (plus other kinds of censorship). Also he did not clean out that nest of vipers so someone released Twitter's source code (partially) just a couple of days ago.

Politicians, journalists are locked out of Twitter for tweets about trans shooter targeting Nashville Christian school
https://www.infowars.com/posts/poli...shooter-targeting-nashville-christian-school/

It seems that this trans shooter had a grudge about being sent to that school. Which brings up the question "Why do Christian schools allow all and sundry to become students?" In my opinion, Christian schools should be limited to kids who have professed their faith in Christ, and likewise teachers who are sincere Christians. This is by definition of "Christian", and it is in fact a ministry to Christian parents and children. At the same time all government handouts should be shunned, and governments at all levels must be told to stay out of that which is a free exercise of religious beliefs. But if Christian schools have not learned anything from all the mass shooting within schools, it means that their administrators are not paying attention to what is really going on.
You make multiple points here that I agree with.
1. Like you said, " In my opinion, Christian schools should be limited to kids who have professed their faith in Christ, and likewise teachers who are sincere Christians."

When I applied to a Bible college MA program, I had a discussion with an administrator. I was told that most students offer vague responses to their question about their salvation. Mine was detailed as was surprisingly unique for applicants.
I can only respond that I found it simply clear what the issues of salvation were, based upon the gospel of John and many other passages. I really wonder how many are truly believers in Christ who attend the primary all the way to post graduate degrees in those school. I would say, given my experience witnessing to them, it's a small percentage with exception of those schools founded by good Gospel preaching, Bible believing churches. Those are the vast minority.

2. Elon Musk sounds like he has an agenda based on his own biases. I would be extremely surprised if he sincerely allowed free speech for all who speak for Christian values and against the evils he has supported.

3. You mentioned, "At the same time all government handouts should be shunned, and governments at all levels must be told to stay out of that which is a free exercise of religious beliefs."

When our country's founding governmental documents were being debated, there were many members from various denominational backgrounds. The establishment churches of many colonies were for taxing the citizens to tithe to their particular denominations. There was one group of christians that opposed that. Do you happen to know which one?
 

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Or secure the building so someone can't get into the building with a gun in the first place?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Sorry. I do not recall reading or hearing about that. Could that have been the Quakers?
History of Pennsylvania Quakers

It was actually a number of churches, independent from one another as well as certain associations. In spite of their imperfections and disagreements, the same distinctive holds true today as it did then of the Baptists. There are a number of various Baptist fellowships and autonomous congregations of different beliefs. As a new believer I learned that a commonality that opposed my previous RC background was that government institutions must stay out of affairs pertaining to the churches. Individual Christians may participate in governing decisions, but not the other way around.
Most evangelicals today hold to that principle.
 
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Your unfounded conspiracy claims are proven to be false. We do not have bodies lying in the street or children dropping like flies. No, we don't have a second amendment. We do not have a bill of rights. We do have the right to send our kids to school without them being dressed in Kevlar to protect them from psychos with guns.

Do you not know what the Bible says about obeying the authorities? That was written during the Roman occupation of Israel and most of the Middle East and much of Europe. You don't see the Christians of that era forming armies to defend against Roman oppression, even when Nero started murdering believers, feeding them to lions and burning them alive. Christians should be praying for their civil leaders, not assuming that they are the enemy. You do not need guns when God is your fortress and strength. And a gun won't help you when you are facing a Bradley or an Apache helicopter.
If your home country does not have a bill of rights that is truly sad.

Thank God America does.
 
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Or secure the building so someone can't get into the building with a gun in the first place?
That was the case in a school shooting wherein a student gained access. When classes began the security system kicked in and that shooter was secure in the building to kill at will.

When police arrived those security mechanisms prevented their entry.
 
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Or secure the building so someone can't get into the building with a gun in the first place?
That was the case in a school shooting wherein a student gained access. When classes began the security system kicked in and that shooter was secure in the building to kill at will.

When police arrived those security mechanisms prevented their entry.
 
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Looks like Elon Musk was all about "free speech" until it is no longer convenient to let free speech take its course. So Musk wants to have it both ways. Now he is censoring discussions about this shooting (plus other kinds of censorship). Also he did not clean out that nest of vipers so someone released Twitter's source code (partially) just a couple of days ago.

Politicians, journalists are locked out of Twitter for tweets about trans shooter targeting Nashville Christian school
https://www.infowars.com/posts/poli...shooter-targeting-nashville-christian-school/

It seems that this trans shooter had a grudge about being sent to that school. Which brings up the question "Why do Christian schools allow all and sundry to become students?" In my opinion, Christian schools should be limited to kids who have professed their faith in Christ, and likewise teachers who are sincere Christians. This is by definition of "Christian", and it is in fact a ministry to Christian parents and children. At the same time all government handouts should be shunned, and governments at all levels must be told to stay out of that which is a free exercise of religious beliefs. But if Christian schools have not learned anything from all the mass shooting within schools, it means that their administrators are not paying attention to what is really going on.
Not surprised at all.

Musk is now charging popular Twitter members a fee to add a blue ✔️ check to their posts.

He overpaid for a SM site and of course going in he schemed ways to make his money back.
 

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Whoa! You give children Meth or some other drug that will make them psychotic and then you train them to be warped with video games and Libs of Tick Tok elementary school teachers having them salute the pride flag and soon you can get them to shoot up schools so that you can take away the guns of Americans making it very easy to roll into a country of 350 million? That is diabolical.

But who could be stupid enough to fall for that...Uhh, scratch that.
I've seen make some really goofy comments but this one makes the goofy Hall of Fame
 

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Then you should give it the "winner" emoji.
Yeah if you're claiming that adderall, tick tock, video games and being gay causes mass shootings then I'm going to need to see some data to back up these claims
 

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Yeah if you're claiming that adderall, tick tock, video games and being gay causes mass shootings then I'm going to need to see some data to back up these claims
Study Shows Connection Between ADHD Medication and Risk of Suicide Attempt

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/vi...n-adhd-medication-and-risk-of-suicide-attempt

Antipsychotics Tied to Higher Risk of Death in Children

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...psychotics-tied-higher-risk-death-in-children

TikTok may push potentially harmful content to teens within minutes, study finds

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/tech/tiktok-teens-study-trnd/index.html

NPR Urges Trans People to Buy Guns Is America Really That Dangerous for Transgender Individuals

 

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Study Shows Connection Between ADHD Medication and Risk of Suicide Attempt

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/vi...n-adhd-medication-and-risk-of-suicide-attempt

Antipsychotics Tied to Higher Risk of Death in Children

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...psychotics-tied-higher-risk-death-in-children

TikTok may push potentially harmful content to teens within minutes, study finds

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/tech/tiktok-teens-study-trnd/index.html

NPR Urges Trans People to Buy Guns Is America Really That Dangerous for Transgender Individuals

Yeah. Because people get murdered for being transgender. Maybe they should arm themselves. They have second amendment rights just like everyone else
 
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Yeah. Because people get murdered for being transgender. Maybe they should arm themselves. They have second amendment rights just like everyone else
A 28 year old Tranny entered their former Christian school and shot down at least 6 people, including young children, in Tennessee recently.
They were later shot dead by police.
 

ZNP

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Yeah. Because people get murdered for being transgender. Maybe they should arm themselves. They have second amendment rights just like everyone else
Actually the statistics show that this is a lie. It is every bit deceitful as saying the biggest threat to children is being shot in school. Anyone who thinks that is completely clueless to the real threats.

Agreed, the same rights as everyone else. If you are mentally unstable you should not be allowed to buy a gun. If you are buying a gun to go shoot up someplace you also should not be allowed to buy a gun. Pretty sure those rules apply to everyone.
 

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A 28 year old Tranny entered their former Christian school and shot down at least 6 people, including young children, in Tennessee recently.
They were later shot dead by police.
Okay and what about the probably 99% of school shootings that are not done by transgender people?
 

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Yeah. Because people get murdered for being transgender. Maybe they should arm themselves. They have second amendment rights just like everyone else

You have never in your life heard a liberal tell anyone to arm themselves! They are done with their pet project, gays, and have moved on to trans. People are not being murdered for being trans, there are more trans that have murdered than the other way round. These liberal snakes have invaded another set of confused and mentally ill people to take advantage of to leave nothing but empty husks. I wonder if they were proud of themselves encouraging violence and trans arming themselves as they saw the video where he/she is laying half dead on the floor still reaching for the gun. Great job libs, great freakin' job.
 

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My point is most school shootings are not done by transgender people so it's a red herring
Also, tranny is a hateful slur

It's increasing, and it is because brainless liberals are telling them they are the newest victims on the block. They need to fight, arm themselves. Great job, 3 nine yr. olds are dead.