Are catholics Christian?

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NO they arent

That's the exact opposite of what the Apostle Paul wrote:

Rom 1:1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called [to be] an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, ... 6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: 7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (KJV/PCE)
 
Do not be sorry...

It was through me being sorry to God that I received in belief of God Christmy redeemer to Father and learned this:
[h=3]Ephesians 3:16-18[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, [SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height—

Praying for us all to see the above.
 
By saying a catholic is not a Christian is not judging. We are not permitted to judge the heart. This can be done by God only. But, we can judge the fruits that an individual bares. Such as false teachings ungodly living. If we say a catholic is not a Christian, because he or she prays to Mary, Eats and drinks the body and blood of Christ over and over. Prays for and speaks to the dead in purgatory(this actually states that what Jesus Christ did on the cross was not enough),
baptize bells(ridiculous). All these things and the rest of their false teaching were not even part of their worship in the beginning of this religion. They were added all along to their worship as the years went by.

There are many false doctrines in many Gatherings and is why one need take the time to read for themselves to, with the only desire to know God personally, asking for God to reveal himself to you personally.

And this might be revealed:
[h=3]Ephesians 3:16-18[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, [SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height—
 
why remove books that have stood for 2000 years at least, you know the great protestant movement of the early centuries was severe, it s my guess that all soughts of nasty stuff was said,

Just like here, mostly from people claiming to be christian,

tell me can a baptist pastor just open a church tomorrow with out any training, and charge 10 percent.
and then claim that Catholics are bad

do baptist pastors have to sign any agreement with the main churches such as the council Nicaea before they open a church, agreements such as certion doctrines, ,,

i think i should start a new thread and call it are baptist christian..

are protestants christian,,

do baptist pastors have to sign any agreement on how to teach,
because the way i see many many baptists behaving here is not of good teaching to me,

Have you read the books that were removed? See for yourself and why, it was needed to be determined what was God inspired and what was not. Does not mean these books were not. So you read them and decide in self if it all lines up with God, and God's amazing Mercy to us all.

The organization CHURCH is just that using God as the way for income, and do give to the needy, I am not downing anyone in particular. I personally do not have that right even if my obedience ever became perfect in Faith to God through Son.

In the day of Christ he came to his own people, and they debunked him, put him out of the synagogue.
Why? Because he was preaching truth about God plain and simply just loving us, healing people, he talked as no man had ever, and the captives in the religion there were being set free. Told they were forgiven, and thus they were healed, why? because they believed.
So here is Christ out in the wilderness. the people are searching for him, whether it is just for physical healing and or Spiritual, the crowds were drawn to him.
So tell me was going to Church per say? What did the council at that time and what would the council do in our time today if no one was going to Church?
So was it Job security that got Jesus killed? Were they not afraid of losing their position in this world of glamor. Even though through the death it brings life as they knew not.
Do you see the mystery here of God and how God, if you trust God, turns all things into the good; if you stop and see that even in adversities that come, there is no avoiding them
John 16:25 [ Jesus Christ Has Overcome the World ] “These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world
1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

So no matter if we attend a building of Catholic, Protestant, or any gathering that preaches Christ whether of sincerity or strive, if you seek God personally, God will reveal himself to you personally in Spirit.
Depending on one's motive, God will reveal God to those with pure motive. While all the Churches continue to use sin behavior as a trap to use as hypocrites do this to keep one a coming bogged down in guilt
Matthew 23:15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

The above happened to me in a different gathering than Catholic, and searched all the others and found the same. It was not until I personally searched God out on my own, diligently seeking truth that sets one free, Because in Church I got worse in being a sinner. For there was not the taking away of the sin, it was the promoting of and that I had to take it away myself in respect back to God. When in fact Christ past tense has past tense done taken away the sin at the cross at his crucifixion. Read col. 1:1 -23 especially verse 22
But Christ is preached so therefore I will glory:
[h=3]Philippians 1:14-19[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]14 [/SUP]and most of the brethren in the Lord, having become confident by my chains, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: [SUP]16 [/SUP]The former[SUP] [/SUP]preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; [SUP]17 [/SUP]but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. [SUP]18 [/SUP]What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

 
No catholic is a Christian if he follows the traditions of the catholic church. If he doesn't follow the false teaching of the catholic church, but only the teaching of the Bible this makes him a Christian. No such thing as a catholic Christian, Mormon Christian, Jehovah witness Christian.. These religions and others that add their on doctrines and rules are only, false religions.

Do you follow any religion here on earth? Do you think God wants us to be religious? What is the true meaning of religion and what does it constitute?
Did Jesus in his day go against religion?
 
my answer is to you is stop trying to be god and judging who has the spirit,,fori tel you when you are baptized you have the spirit until the day of redemption,

So tell me then is that water or Spirit Baptism? Is there a difference?
 
I am only obsessed with whether one believes in the Christ or not, truly unto God the Father who redeemed us through Son Christ


Just my observation on your many statement...

like...you were put back here on earth...
like you do not go to churches here on earth...
and many responses that are skew...

I think you are in different world...
 
seriously dude you dont know what you saying, i could show you many of bad pastor sermons who claim to be christian baptist, im talking pure greed ,, (but i dont want to really offend one, some of the teachings and the way these guys get rich wll make you sick, and whats worse is they get away with it, do you know that most catholic priests are poor people just living of the church,

If your basis of being a Christian is being good...honestly you cannot find one
If the basis of being a Christian is humanitarian, there lots of drug lord/ syndicates and even philanthropist that help their neighbours.
If the Basis of being a Christian is FASTING...Muslims are also good at that...
That is why it was compared as to the Christian of the bible...

as defined
1. The disciples of Christ were called Christian (Acts 11:26)
2. King Agrippa almost persuaded to be a Christian by Paul testimony (Acts 26:28)
-Paul testimony: To repent and turn to God (the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob , the God who does not dwell in things made by Hands) and believe in Jesus Christ his Son.
3. Those who are in the household of God.

Having defined that consider this.Peter was rebuked by Paul (gal 2:11)
 
The Apostle Paul was a Christian. :eek:

Acts 26:25 And Paul said: I am not mad, most excellent Festus, but I speak words of truth and soberness. 26 For the king knoweth of these things, to whom also I speak with confidence. For I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him. For neither was any of these things done in a corner. 27 Believest thou the prophets, O king Agrippa? I know that thou believest. 28 And Agrippa said to Paul: In a little thou persuadest me to become a Christian. 29 And Paul said: I would to God, that both in a little and in much, not only thou, but also all that hear me, this day, should become such as I also am, except these bands. (Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition)


Paul made at least two comments that show clearly that Scripture is NOT ALL to the teachings. Paul would have objected to sola scriptura. So, in jet's eyes, he was not Christian.

Pay attention, or pay tribute to silence please. :)
 
This is a BRILLIANT point, because if one was to go by scripture alone, then all these things MUST Be stated in scripture for their theology to make any sense at all.

errr what do you mean "their understanding". Or were you just being generous?
 
Like how the pope thinks we should all fast and pray for Syria while a lot of non Catholics *pretty much just american non- denom* always want war and more violence. Dont see how thats very Christian like.


Yeah, all that genocide in the OT wasn't God like.

And keeping children from being gassed to horrible deaths, their last moments alive in agony, is damn sure unChristian. God made America blessed enough to have a strong defense. And as we learned in WWII you can sit too long for the wrong reasons.
 
@homwardbound even know your asking me the question to prove me wrong or to make me look stupid, (which is no way for a christian to behave, ill answer so others can benefit, asking a question because you need help is ok to me,

but when your a christian which you claim you are as you have beat your flesh unlike man, i can only assume you asking questions so you may be seen as the good guy and me the bad guy.

you can be batized by water yes,, and if you have never ask god with a sincere heart to receive his spirit before if you have never called out to lord before or never repented with a sincere heart before , then yes you can receive his spirit with water baptism, spiritual baptizing same thing asking the lord with a sincere heart for him to be your friend and to examine your heart so he can see you mean true repentance and wish to change your ways , asking the the lord with a sincere heart for guidance from the holy spirit, but after that if you want to be baptized by water you can as many times as you like, spiritual baptism you can do all by your self in your own time.
 
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Just my observation on your many statement...

like...you were put back here on earth...
like you do not go to churches here on earth...
and many responses that are skew...

I think you are in different world...

James 4:4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

Take it however you will, and twist it if you will. It is what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Citizen of heaven
Ephesians 2:19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household,
Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,