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That alone is truth and the ultimate reason why Paul wrote letters to the brothers and sisters in CHRIST
That we may continue in the peace and grace of The LORD as ONE BODY encouraging, and strengthening one another til we all reach the unity of FAITH unto the full measure of CHRIST
“the perfect...man?”
Fit for every good work...which HE prepared in advance that we should walk in
I wonder
Does the “we” in the BODY apply also to women?
or just men?
And who gets to decide what work we should walk in but THE HEAD
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When a woman refuses to submit to authority she is suppressing the truth by her wicked behavior (Romans 1:18). She is not unveiling the truth when she teaches out of place in the church.
Woman can preach and teach all they want and anywhere they choose, but if they do not live the truth in a godly life of submission (or whatever) they are actually cutting the ground out from under the truth, not revealing it as they think they are.
Living in rebellion to God's order will not draw lovers of truth to God through the rebellious woman (no matter what they say), but rather the rebellious to themselves. That's why I won't touch a church with a woman pastor. You can not expect to find truth among those who do not live it.
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A woman who goes into the pastorate thinking she has heard from God has not heard from God as she thinks.
That's why we have the word of God......to help discern what we hear from God really is from God. Not the other way around.
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That interesting seeing God is not served by the lips of the wills of the creatures as those who usurp the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit.(the anitchrists,plural, that teach we do need a man to teach) Both vessels of clay formed as one have the same teacher and preacher .Men and woman preach Christ not thier ownselves.New creatures are no longer of the flesh.. the reformation came two thousand years ago.
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves; .......(Men or woman)
The reformation elevated women, liberated them from men lording it over them .Why put the our sisters in the Lord to bondage to the commantaries of cavemen? How would that justify not wrestling against flesh and blood, the temporal things seen?
Both men and woman (one creation) are typified as if we were of the tribe of Levi, a kingdom of Priest, sent as apostles as Ambassodors for our eternal King not seen
Do you think Paul would make a Ass as a unclean animal used to represent natural unconverted man or before his conversion as Saul?
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves; (men or women)
It means acting like they are supreme authorities in all matters biblical and running their churches like little kingdoms. Who do not recognize that spiritual authority transcends their religious authority.
Nice and True Pictures AuntieAnt, but what have they and the verses to do with the threat theme?
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Which is exactly why women should not be in the pastorate. That is rebellion. Their self proclaimed authority in the church is phony.
God does not give that authority to women as a matter of his ordained order of authority in creation.
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The Bible perhaps? Is that really such a stretch?
The Bible decides for us that woman are not to be pastors teaching and having authority over a man.
Why is this so hard for you people except that you are unwilling to accept the hard teachings of the Bible. It's just like all the other hard teachings in the Bible, they chaff against the flesh, but that hardly means we can dismiss them and rationalize them away because they do that.
