Begotten

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Isdaniel said:
you dont get it do you the principle that you have applied should apply right through thus if it was the desendants of Seath it was all none exxempted the bible does not say that.
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No. what he se emerging in chapters six and seven is an increasing disintegration of the linage of the sons of Seth. Noah is the only one left of that line and indeed of that entire generation whom the Lord regarded as righteous.

It is is simple fallen angel human wives giants = wickedness
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The text mentions angels nowhere. You are arriving at this conclusion simply on the basis on assumption.
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Isdaniel said:


Luke 22:32But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Why could they not throw Jesus over in this situation ? Who was in them to perform this act ?

Luke 4:26-30

King James Version (KJV)

26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.
27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.
28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.
30 But he passing through the midst of them went his way,
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from the beginning in the garden the scriptures prove he did not know,,,lets cut to the chase,,,go to rev.12;13,,,"and when the devil SAW that he was cast into the earth",,,,,,so "when he saw",,,,,,that is because he did not see before this point,,,,
 
iamsoandso said:
if the devil knew that slaying peter would end the preaching of the Gospel he would not have continued and slew all but john,,and then the churches by the millions,he would not even bother with you and me,,,,,,he would have ended his slaying with peter,,,,,,,
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Matthew 26:45Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
Luke 22:53When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

John 7:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.

John 2

King James Version (KJV)

1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
4Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
 
iamsoandso said:
from the beginning in the garden the scriptures prove he did not know,,,lets cut to the chase,,,go to rev.12;13,,,"and when the devil SAW that he was cast into the earth",,,,,,so "when he saw",,,,,,that is because he did not see before this point,,,,
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When did this cast out happen ?
 
oldhermit said:
No. what he se emerging in chapters six and seven is an increasing disintegration of the linage of the sons of Seth. Noah is the only one left of that line and indeed of that entire generation whom the Lord regarded as righteous.


The text mentions angels nowhere. You are arriving at this conclusion simply on the basis on assumption.
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What are the morning stars in job ?
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iamsoandso said:
from the beginning in the garden the scriptures prove he did not know,,,lets cut to the chase,,,go to rev.12;13,,,"and when the devil SAW that he was cast into the earth",,,,,,so "when he saw",,,,,,that is because he did not see before this point,,,,
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How did the devil know to block gabriel from giving daniel the message ?
 
LovePink said:
// "He was begotten, not made, one in being with the father." <--- That's right,*Lovepink! This quote means that God has always been around!//

Accordong to Scripture, when was the Son begotten by the Father. You just used part of a creed, not Scripture.
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I'm getting another headache....................are you talking to yourself here?
 
Isdaniel said:
How did the devil know to block gabriel from giving daniel the message ?
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well your asking question after question to 2 of us at some point you should be able to reason through the rest,,,,good night i will be back tomorrow,,,,,,,
 
Gjolll said:
The KJV is more accurate "the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." It follows the Greek word order.


Begotten occured at Jesus' birth. That was when the Word became a Son.

There is no reference to "God the Son" in the entire bible.
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.............and here come the Jehovah Witness........

(maybe we should leave them to teach Pink?)
 
oldhermit said:
I really no not think that is it. Everything Job describes in 2-7 seem to be things connected exclusively to the natural world.
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the angels are called stars , mornig stars Jesus is called the bright and Mornig star and Daystar


well what can i say this will not hinder anyones salvation but as for me it is angels
 
iamsoandso said:
well your asking question after question to 2 of us at some point you should be able to reason through the rest,,,,good night i will be back tomorrow,,,,,,,
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take care look forward to here your answer on how did he know to block gabriel before the message came
 
LovePink said:
Ok Zone, I don't see a problem with my approach. Your first response to me was is Jesus God- So, I responded is Jesus our Saviour. If you would have simply responded yes, I would have said yes He is God, because only God can save and God is One.

I am trying to go through all the lovely comments, haha. Teach, not my bag, but cool if someone is learning or even being edified. I am trying to converse & fellowship with Christians.
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GREAT! I know that I, for one, would appreciate that..............so, here's a thought...........speak clearly, without innuendo, without sarcasm, without answering question with question............then quite possible others will do the same..........In my opinion, it is as if you are trying to be "too cute" with your commentary as if to show all of us how much smarter you are than we the ignorant and unwashed masses here on CC.

(just a thought)
 
Isdaniel said:
the angels are called stars , mornig stars Jesus is called the bright and Mornig star and Daystar


well what can i say this will not hinder anyones salvation but as for me it is angels
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Well, we do know that Jesus tells us that angels neither marry nor are given in marriage, Mark 12:25. This would make it rather difficult for us to assume that the "sons of God" in Gen 6 are angels entering into marriage with humans.
 
p_rehbein said:
.............and here come the Jehovah Witness........

(maybe we should leave them to teach Pink?)
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You really are clueless aren't you? You are a defamer and a liar.

For as I never once said that prior to his incarnation the Word was less that God, I cannot be a JW.

But you are a liar LIAR LIAR. Pharisee - you will reap your reward.
 
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