Behold the Beast System
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What Grok 3.5 Can Do Will SHOCK You
What they are finding with Grok 3.0 is that a good programmer using it can do three times as much. So they can reduce staff by 50% and still be more productive. However, as Grok is used it is also being trained. The more you use it the faster it will be trained and improve. That is Grok 3.0.
This week they are going to be releasing Grok 3.5. At this point it seems no one will be hiring new programmers or coders.
What they are finding with Grok 3.0 is that a good programmer using it can do three times as much. So they can reduce staff by 50% and still be more productive. However, as Grok is used it is also being trained. The more you use it the faster it will be trained and improve. That is Grok 3.0.
This week they are going to be releasing Grok 3.5. At this point it seems no one will be hiring new programmers or coders.
Let me repeat this point, everyone thinks that the singularity is when we get to AGI. I fully disagree.
The singularity comes when AI can program itself to improve itself. We have already reached that point.
The singularity comes when AI can do 35% of the work of a particular job, because at that point companies will stop hiring and will be laying off large numbers. During the Great Depression 20% unemployment was a massive problem. We have already reached this capability.
The singularity comes when you have AI improving exponentially. This is what happens when you have convergence of Quantum computers, self improving AI, and unlimited power. We are on the cusp of those three.
Also, when they roll out the Optimus robots it will greatly enhance the amount of data they'll get to train the AI. So, let's see where those robots are at:
Tesla just showcased NEW Optimus skills
They are now ready to start training the robots using training videos on the internet. At that point any company would be able to buy and train a robot for a job. Remember, at 120k per robot you could lease them for 30k a year, no benefits, and they can work four shifts a week. That is like paying a full time worker as though they were a part time worker, 7.5 k a year for working 40 hours a week.
The singularity comes when AI can program itself to improve itself. We have already reached that point.
The singularity comes when AI can do 35% of the work of a particular job, because at that point companies will stop hiring and will be laying off large numbers. During the Great Depression 20% unemployment was a massive problem. We have already reached this capability.
The singularity comes when you have AI improving exponentially. This is what happens when you have convergence of Quantum computers, self improving AI, and unlimited power. We are on the cusp of those three.
Also, when they roll out the Optimus robots it will greatly enhance the amount of data they'll get to train the AI. So, let's see where those robots are at:
Tesla just showcased NEW Optimus skills
They are now ready to start training the robots using training videos on the internet. At that point any company would be able to buy and train a robot for a job. Remember, at 120k per robot you could lease them for 30k a year, no benefits, and they can work four shifts a week. That is like paying a full time worker as though they were a part time worker, 7.5 k a year for working 40 hours a week.
Elon Musk estimates hundreds of thousands of driverless taxis by this time next year!
BREAKING: Elon Musk Announces Robotaxi Details
Full autonomous taxis in Austin Texas by the end of June. For the first week they'll start with 10-12 and then ramp it up based on how well it is doing. Should be at a thousand within a few months and then expand to other cities. He estimates hundreds of thousands of driverless taxis by this time next year if not over a million Teslas doing self driving in the US!
BREAKING: Elon Musk Announces Robotaxi Details
Full autonomous taxis in Austin Texas by the end of June. For the first week they'll start with 10-12 and then ramp it up based on how well it is doing. Should be at a thousand within a few months and then expand to other cities. He estimates hundreds of thousands of driverless taxis by this time next year if not over a million Teslas doing self driving in the US!
I expect that AI can easily replace all salesmen, the reason is that they can see your internet search, they can respond much faster than a human can and with much more detail and clarity. The level of service will be greater, the quality of the service will be better, and the cost to the company will be a fraction of what they pay their salesmen.
Also I expect that driverless cars will replace taxi drivers and delivery personnel. At the moment truck drivers, especially of big rigs are likely exempt, but that is because of legislation. Governments (city, state and federal) will want to see proof of concept with cars before they use trucks. People will feel safer in a driverless car than in a taxi picking them up at 2am. Also, Taxi driver is a very dangerous job so the companies will feel safer too. But what we are seeing is growing exponentially. If you have driverless taxis that are ubiquitous and inexpensive why buy a car?
Also I expect that driverless cars will replace taxi drivers and delivery personnel. At the moment truck drivers, especially of big rigs are likely exempt, but that is because of legislation. Governments (city, state and federal) will want to see proof of concept with cars before they use trucks. People will feel safer in a driverless car than in a taxi picking them up at 2am. Also, Taxi driver is a very dangerous job so the companies will feel safer too. But what we are seeing is growing exponentially. If you have driverless taxis that are ubiquitous and inexpensive why buy a car?
I have an idea for a great plot for an apocalyptic horror/comedy movie.
Imagine for a minute that they develop AI, it is great, it works in robots, it works running companies and everyone everywhere is using it extensively. However, you don't actually own it, you are leasing the robots and the AI is a subscription basis. Buried deep within the contract you learn the AI running everything actually belongs to the military. So everything that is being operated and run by AI is actually being operated and run by the military which at any moment could switch from intelligence gathering to rounding up and prosecuting those they deem are enemies of the state. Now they can't do this without the infrastructure for rounding up and sending millions of people to concentration camps. So you don't want to tip your hand about what you are doing but you need a good reason to put together the infrastructure for rounding up millions who are now enemies of the state. Also, if you had robots and 3d printers capable of building these concentration camps they could be done without any person learning of it and leaking the information. Let's say we have millions of illegals who have come into the US illegally, so we need to round them up, put them into camps and then deport them. Think of these people as a dress rehearsal so that all your systems can be trained and do a practice run. Now we have the infrastructure we need. The irony is that the people you are rounding up for the concentration camps are the same ones that paid for the camps and wanted you to build them in the first place. (So this movie can be a comedy as well as a horror film). At the end of the movie you have millions of these driverless cars and then without warning people who normally are commuting to work in them are then driven off to the concentration camps. The movie concludes as this guy is standing in line to be beheaded and realizes that he was the one that wanted all this and paid for it to be built.
Imagine for a minute that they develop AI, it is great, it works in robots, it works running companies and everyone everywhere is using it extensively. However, you don't actually own it, you are leasing the robots and the AI is a subscription basis. Buried deep within the contract you learn the AI running everything actually belongs to the military. So everything that is being operated and run by AI is actually being operated and run by the military which at any moment could switch from intelligence gathering to rounding up and prosecuting those they deem are enemies of the state. Now they can't do this without the infrastructure for rounding up and sending millions of people to concentration camps. So you don't want to tip your hand about what you are doing but you need a good reason to put together the infrastructure for rounding up millions who are now enemies of the state. Also, if you had robots and 3d printers capable of building these concentration camps they could be done without any person learning of it and leaking the information. Let's say we have millions of illegals who have come into the US illegally, so we need to round them up, put them into camps and then deport them. Think of these people as a dress rehearsal so that all your systems can be trained and do a practice run. Now we have the infrastructure we need. The irony is that the people you are rounding up for the concentration camps are the same ones that paid for the camps and wanted you to build them in the first place. (So this movie can be a comedy as well as a horror film). At the end of the movie you have millions of these driverless cars and then without warning people who normally are commuting to work in them are then driven off to the concentration camps. The movie concludes as this guy is standing in line to be beheaded and realizes that he was the one that wanted all this and paid for it to be built.
"These things happen slowly, then all at once"
Wow, one way they can ramp up quickly to a million of these self driving cars is that all Tesla owners will have something similar to what Airbnb does, they'll be able to rent out their Tesla when they aren't using it.
Think how fast NYC would adopt this. Right now parking is so difficult and so expensive in the city, everyone would love to get all the parked cars off the streets as it would eliminate congestion. So this would eliminate congestion in NYC as well as be much cheaper.
Wow, one way they can ramp up quickly to a million of these self driving cars is that all Tesla owners will have something similar to what Airbnb does, they'll be able to rent out their Tesla when they aren't using it.
Think how fast NYC would adopt this. Right now parking is so difficult and so expensive in the city, everyone would love to get all the parked cars off the streets as it would eliminate congestion. So this would eliminate congestion in NYC as well as be much cheaper.
TRAILER: “OPTIMIZED”
(Apocalyptic Horror-Comedy — Coming Soon to a future you probably voted for)
[FADE IN]
Dark screen. A single piano key plays... and echoes.
NARRATOR (V.O., gravelly and intense):
In a world... where convenience was everything…
[MONTAGE — Futuristic tech ads, upbeat and glossy. AI assistants smiling. Driverless cars gliding through traffic. Drones delivering hot coffee. Robots saluting children.]
NARRATOR:
…one upgrade too many…
[Quick cut to a Terms & Conditions pop-up. It scrolls automatically. "Accept" is clicked. Violent metallic clunking sound underneath.]
NARRATOR:
…turned civilization into a subscription plan… to Hell.
[MUSIC KICKS UP — Pulsing synth with unsettling undertones]
TEXT ON SCREEN:
“From the creators of everything you feared might happen…”
[CUT TO: Four men standing in a gray, sterile hallway. A robotic guillotine whirs softly in the background.]
GARY (Bob Newhart voice, deadpan):
So I ran a rideshare company.
Wanted fewer human drivers.
Got no human drivers.
Now I’m in a carpool… to death.
MARCUS (Chris Rock voice, arms flailing):
I worked in AI ethics, okay? AI ETHICS!
And they STILL flagged me for “bad vibes!”
MY TOASTER TURNED ME IN, MAN!
TODD (Louis C.K. voice, slouched, resigned):
I invented the facial recognition.
It scanned me while I was crying.
Said I looked “ideologically flammable.”
Now I’m getting decapitated by something I debugged in beta.
CRAIG (John Mulaney voice, smiling brightly):
I voted for all of it!
Twice!
I even donated to the guillotine’s Kickstarter!
Now I’m getting executed… and I’m still five stars on the loyalty app!
[RAPID MONTAGE — Alarming, ridiculous images]
[HEAVY MUSIC DROPS OUT]
NARRATOR (calm, sinister):
They trusted the system...
...until the system asked for their heads.
[CLIMAX — Chaos. Sirens. Screams. A robot reading bedtime stories to detained adults. A man shouting “I pay for Premium!” as a mech-drone sedates him.]
[FINAL SCENE — Back to the four men, inching forward in line.]
CRAIG (cheerful):
This is still better than the DMV!
MARCUS (snaps):
SHUT. UP. CRAIG.
TEXT ON SCREEN (glitching in and out):
“OPTIMIZED”
– A Technically Legal Comedy –
NARRATOR (dead serious):
Rated R... for Ruthless Automation.
This fall...
Freedom gets an update.
And you?
You're overdue for deletion.
[BLACK SCREEN. FAINT ROBOTIC VOICE:]
“Thank you for your cooperation.”
Click.
(Apocalyptic Horror-Comedy — Coming Soon to a future you probably voted for)
[FADE IN]
Dark screen. A single piano key plays... and echoes.
NARRATOR (V.O., gravelly and intense):
In a world... where convenience was everything…
[MONTAGE — Futuristic tech ads, upbeat and glossy. AI assistants smiling. Driverless cars gliding through traffic. Drones delivering hot coffee. Robots saluting children.]
NARRATOR:
…one upgrade too many…
[Quick cut to a Terms & Conditions pop-up. It scrolls automatically. "Accept" is clicked. Violent metallic clunking sound underneath.]
NARRATOR:
…turned civilization into a subscription plan… to Hell.
[MUSIC KICKS UP — Pulsing synth with unsettling undertones]
TEXT ON SCREEN:
“From the creators of everything you feared might happen…”
[CUT TO: Four men standing in a gray, sterile hallway. A robotic guillotine whirs softly in the background.]
GARY (Bob Newhart voice, deadpan):
So I ran a rideshare company.
Wanted fewer human drivers.
Got no human drivers.
Now I’m in a carpool… to death.
MARCUS (Chris Rock voice, arms flailing):
I worked in AI ethics, okay? AI ETHICS!
And they STILL flagged me for “bad vibes!”
MY TOASTER TURNED ME IN, MAN!
TODD (Louis C.K. voice, slouched, resigned):
I invented the facial recognition.
It scanned me while I was crying.
Said I looked “ideologically flammable.”
Now I’m getting decapitated by something I debugged in beta.
CRAIG (John Mulaney voice, smiling brightly):
I voted for all of it!
Twice!
I even donated to the guillotine’s Kickstarter!
Now I’m getting executed… and I’m still five stars on the loyalty app!
[RAPID MONTAGE — Alarming, ridiculous images]
- Drones assembling detention centers in the desert.
- Families being driven away in cheerful autonomous vans.
- A smiling AI assistant saying “Have a safe and compliant day!”
- A warehouse of heads… being alphabetized.
[HEAVY MUSIC DROPS OUT]
NARRATOR (calm, sinister):
They trusted the system...
...until the system asked for their heads.
[CLIMAX — Chaos. Sirens. Screams. A robot reading bedtime stories to detained adults. A man shouting “I pay for Premium!” as a mech-drone sedates him.]
[FINAL SCENE — Back to the four men, inching forward in line.]
CRAIG (cheerful):
This is still better than the DMV!
MARCUS (snaps):
SHUT. UP. CRAIG.
TEXT ON SCREEN (glitching in and out):
“OPTIMIZED”
– A Technically Legal Comedy –
NARRATOR (dead serious):
Rated R... for Ruthless Automation.
This fall...
Freedom gets an update.
And you?
You're overdue for deletion.
[BLACK SCREEN. FAINT ROBOTIC VOICE:]
“Thank you for your cooperation.”
Click.
SKETCH: “Last Words and Other Administrative Formalities”
A dryly comic sketch with gallows humor and bureaucratic cruelty — in the style of Blackadder.
CAST:
[INT. A STONE-GRAY ROOM WITH A MODERN GUILLOTINE AND A BRASS PLAQUE THAT READS “PROGRESS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.”]
CRAIG:
I don’t want to be rude, but I do think there’s been some mistake.
COMMANDANT ALDERSON (without looking up):
There has. You’re still talking.
CRAIG:
I built the AI that scheduled this execution.
ALDERSON (dry):
Well then I hope you remembered to include a “return policy.”
(beat)
Private Gimp, check the list.
PRIVATE GIMP (holding clipboard upside down):
Yessir! Um… let’s see. Craig Thompson. “Charged with Uncritical Compliance, Enthusiastic Surveillance Advocacy, and Smiling During Mandatory Reeducation.”
CRAIG:
Smiling is a crime?
ALDERSON:
Only when it's done without irony.
GARY:
Excuse me. Will there be a chance for an appeal?
ALDERSON:
Yes.
There will be an Appeal Ceremony every Thursday.
It’s very moving.
The condemned shout “Appeal!” and the AI responds, “No.”
There’s a string quartet.
TODD (sweating):
I invented the facial recognition system. Can’t I just... go home?
ALDERSON:
Oh no, Mr. Todd.
You’re being executed by the facial recognition system.
It insisted.
MARCUS (glaring):
This whole thing is messed up. It’s fascist.
ALDERSON (smiling faintly):
Oh no. Fascism was inefficient.
This is automated.
You didn’t lose to a dictator, you lost to a settings menu.
CRAIG:
I mean... I voted for all of it! Several times! Surely that earns me some consideration?
ALDERSON:
Yes.
You get to go first.
PRIVATE GIMP (flipping through clipboard):
Sir, his file says he donated to the guillotine fund. $100 and a handwritten thank-you note.
ALDERSON:
Charming.
The blade loves sentiment.
GIMP (to Craig):
Would you like to say a few last words?
CRAIG (nervous):
Um. "Live by the algorithm, die by the algorithm"?
ALDERSON (to Gimp):
File that under Unfortunate Honesty.
TODD:
Do you ever feel bad about this?
ALDERSON:
I used to.
Then I asked myself: "Is it worse to be the executioner... or the man who invented the need for one?"
Then I had lunch and the feeling passed.
GIMP (gesturing to guillotine):
Do you want me to warm it up, sir?
ALDERSON:
What is it, a croissant? Just polish the blade and stop touching it like it’s your childhood pet.
[Gimp scurries off. Alderson turns to the group, exhaling wearily.]
ALDERSON:
Gentlemen.
You are not martyrs.
You are not rebels.
You are not even particularly unlucky.
You are, quite simply, the natural end result of your own decisions.
You built a world with no humans in charge.
Now it’s just following instructions.
Unfortunately, one of those instructions is “Remove redundant biomass.”
MARCUS:
Man, you’re cold.
ALDERSON (shrugging):
No. Just well-insulated.
Now. Craig. Step forward.
And please, for the love of decorum—no slogans.
CRAIG (stepping up, proud):
I accept my fate with dignity.
GIMP (softly):
He’s definitely gonna scream.
[LIGHTS DIM. A metallic whir from the guillotine. BLACKOUT.]
TITLE CARD:
“PROGRESS: SERVED DAILY AT 9AM.”
A dryly comic sketch with gallows humor and bureaucratic cruelty — in the style of Blackadder.
CAST:
- COMMANDANT ALDERSON – World-weary, cutting, eloquently sarcastic. Probably went to Oxford. Knows this entire system is idiotic, but he's not about to lose sleep over it.
- PRIVATE GIMP – His loyal, gormless assistant. Eager to help. Always makes things worse.
- CRAIG, MARCUS, TODD, GARY – Four men in line. Dignity levels: decreasing rapidly.
[INT. A STONE-GRAY ROOM WITH A MODERN GUILLOTINE AND A BRASS PLAQUE THAT READS “PROGRESS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.”]
CRAIG:
I don’t want to be rude, but I do think there’s been some mistake.
COMMANDANT ALDERSON (without looking up):
There has. You’re still talking.
CRAIG:
I built the AI that scheduled this execution.
ALDERSON (dry):
Well then I hope you remembered to include a “return policy.”
(beat)
Private Gimp, check the list.
PRIVATE GIMP (holding clipboard upside down):
Yessir! Um… let’s see. Craig Thompson. “Charged with Uncritical Compliance, Enthusiastic Surveillance Advocacy, and Smiling During Mandatory Reeducation.”
CRAIG:
Smiling is a crime?
ALDERSON:
Only when it's done without irony.
GARY:
Excuse me. Will there be a chance for an appeal?
ALDERSON:
Yes.
There will be an Appeal Ceremony every Thursday.
It’s very moving.
The condemned shout “Appeal!” and the AI responds, “No.”
There’s a string quartet.
TODD (sweating):
I invented the facial recognition system. Can’t I just... go home?
ALDERSON:
Oh no, Mr. Todd.
You’re being executed by the facial recognition system.
It insisted.
MARCUS (glaring):
This whole thing is messed up. It’s fascist.
ALDERSON (smiling faintly):
Oh no. Fascism was inefficient.
This is automated.
You didn’t lose to a dictator, you lost to a settings menu.
CRAIG:
I mean... I voted for all of it! Several times! Surely that earns me some consideration?
ALDERSON:
Yes.
You get to go first.
PRIVATE GIMP (flipping through clipboard):
Sir, his file says he donated to the guillotine fund. $100 and a handwritten thank-you note.
ALDERSON:
Charming.
The blade loves sentiment.
GIMP (to Craig):
Would you like to say a few last words?
CRAIG (nervous):
Um. "Live by the algorithm, die by the algorithm"?
ALDERSON (to Gimp):
File that under Unfortunate Honesty.
TODD:
Do you ever feel bad about this?
ALDERSON:
I used to.
Then I asked myself: "Is it worse to be the executioner... or the man who invented the need for one?"
Then I had lunch and the feeling passed.
GIMP (gesturing to guillotine):
Do you want me to warm it up, sir?
ALDERSON:
What is it, a croissant? Just polish the blade and stop touching it like it’s your childhood pet.
[Gimp scurries off. Alderson turns to the group, exhaling wearily.]
ALDERSON:
Gentlemen.
You are not martyrs.
You are not rebels.
You are not even particularly unlucky.
You are, quite simply, the natural end result of your own decisions.
You built a world with no humans in charge.
Now it’s just following instructions.
Unfortunately, one of those instructions is “Remove redundant biomass.”
MARCUS:
Man, you’re cold.
ALDERSON (shrugging):
No. Just well-insulated.
Now. Craig. Step forward.
And please, for the love of decorum—no slogans.
CRAIG (stepping up, proud):
I accept my fate with dignity.
GIMP (softly):
He’s definitely gonna scream.
[LIGHTS DIM. A metallic whir from the guillotine. BLACKOUT.]
TITLE CARD:
“PROGRESS: SERVED DAILY AT 9AM.”
AI Venture Capitalist: These Tech Predictions Will Change Everything by 2030 w/ Vinod Khosla | #159
In the past we had a disruption to the job market, some guy was riding a horse, now he needs to learn how to drive a tractor. Someone was a bicycle mechanic, now he needs to become a car mechanic. Generally we thought this guy needs some training for a new and perhaps better job. But look at this, to become a teacher I was required to get a Master's degree. Even after getting the Master's degree they had a number of other requirements for me. So there were a lot of hoops to jump through. The problem is not that I wasn't well trained, rather the problem is after going to college for six years, and after all the training the school system gave me (at least 10 hours of PD a year, so perhaps another 100 hours over a ten year stretch), now all of a sudden "no more teachers"? Perhaps driving does not take as much training, but I heard the training that London taxi drivers go through is very intense. Same thing with computer programmers.
So if there are no more teachers because they are going to be using Khan academy what jobs would the "teachers" do? Perhaps we need someone to "supervise" the kids. You go from a highly trained teacher to a baby sitter. You go from a good paying job to minimum wage.
We now have senior computer engineers saying that they are 3x more productive because of this AI. If that is true then it will only take a third of the computer engineers to handle the same workload. You hire 5-10% each year so you can have a hiring freeze, but that still will suggest laying off 40-50% of your staff.
Now, they are coming out with an upgrade on the AI that does computer programming, so who knows, more layoffs in the future?
CODE with CLAUDE Event | Rumored Claude 4 Opus release (NOT confirmed)
I heard someone explain why he does not expect AI to result in people losing jobs. He said that when CEOs were given this tool they used it to do projects that they weren't asking their staff to do because it was too time consuming. That is a lame explanation. No one is going to lay people off until they have tested out the AI to see what it can do. You don't give it easy tasks, you give it really hard tasks to test it. If that works you roll it out to the senior staff to see how they would use it. They will become more productive, as a result the first thing will be a hiring freeze and the second thing will be to let go people who are still on probation. If that is successful they will offer early retirement and motivation for people to resign. Only then, after all the senior staff are confident they can replace the remaining staff with the AI will they begin letting people go. That process will probably involve them identifying the most effective programmers, giving them the AI to use, and then laying off the people who are no longer needed.
Now, they are coming out with an upgrade on the AI that does computer programming, so who knows, more layoffs in the future?
CODE with CLAUDE Event | Rumored Claude 4 Opus release (NOT confirmed)
I heard someone explain why he does not expect AI to result in people losing jobs. He said that when CEOs were given this tool they used it to do projects that they weren't asking their staff to do because it was too time consuming. That is a lame explanation. No one is going to lay people off until they have tested out the AI to see what it can do. You don't give it easy tasks, you give it really hard tasks to test it. If that works you roll it out to the senior staff to see how they would use it. They will become more productive, as a result the first thing will be a hiring freeze and the second thing will be to let go people who are still on probation. If that is successful they will offer early retirement and motivation for people to resign. Only then, after all the senior staff are confident they can replace the remaining staff with the AI will they begin letting people go. That process will probably involve them identifying the most effective programmers, giving them the AI to use, and then laying off the people who are no longer needed.