Belief

[Robertt]

I have read and heard so much about how people are told to be saved.

So much is spoken of "all who believe" yes certain scriptures when taken alone seem to indicate any one who belevies will be saved.

And yet even the demons believe we are told. so obviusly there is far more to being saved than simply beliving that Jesus is the son of God and saviour.

Yes belief is the first change in a person.

But what do people do with that belief is what makes the difference between being saved or not i think

Not works people will scream and list a dozen or more scriptures. but faith without works is dead. Beleif alone is not enough.

Repentence obviously is a huge part of following the choice to believe.

And i think it is clear in bible that OBEDIENCE is what is needed

Now what obedience do we need to do.
That is upto each of us to work out between God and yourselves. All the followers are part of the one body. some are the hands some the feet. some the elbows etc etc. Find what God wants you to do. and the only way to know that is to HEAR his Voice as JEsus himself said . MY sheep know MY voice.

Ill leave it to others to now say that the bible is full of Gods voice and that is all that is needed.

I pray that the Holy Spirit is released upon beleivers soon so we can then be of one mind one spirit. Listen to the Teacher is all we can do.


Good by though folks. i might drop by again in a year to two and see where the body is going. but too much mans understanding.
Remember LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN Underdtnding for the the wisdon of man is as foolishness to God.

Enjoy your time MAy Gods Kingdom be on Earth as it is in Heaven

 

[GWH]

I have read and heard so much about how people are told to be saved.

So much is spoken of "all who believe" yes certain scriptures when taken alone seem to indicate any one who belevies will be saved.

And yet even the demons believe we are told. so obviusly there is far more to being saved than simply beliving that Jesus is the son of God and saviour.

Yes belief is the first change in a person.

But what do people do with that belief is what makes the difference between being saved or not i think

Not works people will scream and list a dozen or more scriptures. but faith without works is dead. Beleif alone is not enough.

Repentence obviously is a huge part of following the choice to believe.

And i think it is clear in bible that OBEDIENCE is what is needed

Now what obedience do we need to do.
That is upto each of us to work out between God and yourselves. All the followers are part of the one body. some are the hands some the feet. some the elbows etc etc. Find what God wants you to do. and the only way to know that is to HEAR his Voice as JEsus himself said . MY sheep know MY voice.

Ill leave it to others to now say that the bible is full of Gods voice and that is all that is needed.

I pray that the Holy Spirit is released upon beleivers soon so we can then be of one mind one spirit. Listen to the Teacher is all we can do.


Good by though folks. i might drop by again in a year to two and see where the body is going. but too much mans understanding.
Remember LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN Underdtnding for the the wisdon of man is as foolishness to God.

Enjoy your time MAy Gods Kingdom be on Earth as it is in Heaven

You seem to be a Debby Downer, so I encourage you to stick around and be part of the answer to the prayer of Jesus for unity,

 

[homwardbound]

I have read and heard so much about how people are told to be saved.

So much is spoken of "all who believe" yes certain scriptures when taken alone seem to indicate any one who belevies will be saved.

And yet even the demons believe we are told. so obviusly there is far more to being saved than simply beliving that Jesus is the son of God and saviour.

Yes belief is the first change in a person.

But what do people do with that belief is what makes the difference between being saved or not i think

Not works people will scream and list a dozen or more scriptures. but faith without works is dead. Beleif alone is not enough.

Repentence obviously is a huge part of following the choice to believe.

And i think it is clear in bible that OBEDIENCE is what is needed

Now what obedience do we need to do.
That is upto each of us to work out between God and yourselves. All the followers are part of the one body. some are the hands some the feet. some the elbows etc etc. Find what God wants you to do. and the only way to know that is to HEAR his Voice as JEsus himself said . MY sheep know MY voice.

Ill leave it to others to now say that the bible is full of Gods voice and that is all that is needed.

I pray that the Holy Spirit is released upon beleivers soon so we can then be of one mind one spirit. Listen to the Teacher is all we can do.


Good by though folks. i might drop by again in a year to two and see where the body is going. but too much mans understanding.
Remember LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN Underdtnding for the the wisdon of man is as foolishness to God.

Enjoy your time MAy Gods Kingdom be on Earth as it is in Heaven

Flesh verses God

Authorized (King James) Version

1 Cor 13:1-3

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Man's doing of flesh is above

Authorized (King James) Version

1 Cor 13:4-7

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

God's doing in verses 4-7, for us in risen Son to us to stand in belief to receive the faith from God eventually and then wow, woe is me

Authorized (King James) Version

1 Cor 8-13

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

All else passes away but Love, Charity from God to us all proven in risen Son to me at least

Thanks for your post

 

[Blain]

you know before I was saved I believed in Jesus I knew he was the son of God the savior but I knew I wasn't saved I knew because I still felt dead inside I still longed to know love I still wanted a reason to be alive

It wasn't until I reached the point in my life where I was in my room deeply depressed my life was trash to me everything I owned trash and I literally got on my knees in tears begging him to come into my heart I surrendered everything to him my life my posessions everything. that is when I was saved that is when this life filled me to the brim to the point I danced for joy unable to stop thanking him and praising him

surrender was the key for me

 

[Suze]

I have read and heard so much about how people are told to be saved.

So much is spoken of "all who believe" yes certain scriptures when taken alone seem to indicate any one who belevies will be saved.

And yet even the demons believe we are told. so obviusly there is far more to being saved than simply beliving that Jesus is the son of God and saviour.

Yes belief is the first change in a person.

But what do people do with that belief is what makes the difference between being saved or not i think

Not works people will scream and list a dozen or more scriptures. but faith without works is dead. Beleif alone is not enough.

Repentence obviously is a huge part of following the choice to believe.

And i think it is clear in bible that OBEDIENCE is what is needed

Now what obedience do we need to do.
That is upto each of us to work out between God and yourselves. All the followers are part of the one body. some are the hands some the feet. some the elbows etc etc. Find what God wants you to do. and the only way to know that is to HEAR his Voice as JEsus himself said . MY sheep know MY voice.

Ill leave it to others to now say that the bible is full of Gods voice and that is all that is needed.

I pray that the Holy Spirit is released upon beleivers soon so we can then be of one mind one spirit. Listen to the Teacher is all we can do.


Good by though folks. i might drop by again in a year to two and see where the body is going. but too much mans understanding.
Remember LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN Underdtnding for the the wisdon of man is as foolishness to God.

Enjoy your time MAy Gods Kingdom be on Earth as it is in Heaven

Just getting to know u ! 🙄 Stay strong in the Lord , c u in the World to come 😜 .

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I have read and heard so much about how people are told to be saved.

So much is spoken of "all who believe" yes certain scriptures when taken alone seem to indicate any one who belevies will be saved.

And yet even the demons believe we are told. so obviusly there is far more to being saved than simply beliving that Jesus is the son of God and saviour.

Yes belief is the first change in a person.

But what do people do with that belief is what makes the difference between being saved or not i think

Not works people will scream and list a dozen or more scriptures. but faith without works is dead. Beleif alone is not enough.

Repentence obviously is a huge part of following the choice to believe.

And i think it is clear in bible that OBEDIENCE is what is needed

Now what obedience do we need to do.
That is upto each of us to work out between God and yourselves. All the followers are part of the one body. some are the hands some the feet. some the elbows etc etc. Find what God wants you to do. and the only way to know that is to HEAR his Voice as JEsus himself said . MY sheep know MY voice.

Ill leave it to others to now say that the bible is full of Gods voice and that is all that is needed.

I pray that the Holy Spirit is released upon beleivers soon so we can then be of one mind one spirit. Listen to the Teacher is all we can do.


Good by though folks. i might drop by again in a year to two and see where the body is going. but too much mans understanding.
Remember LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN Underdtnding for the the wisdon of man is as foolishness to God.

Enjoy your time MAy Gods Kingdom be on Earth as it is in Heaven

“So much is spoken of "all who believe" yes certain scriptures when taken alone seem to indicate any one who belevies will be saved.”

its a matter of what a person believes. A lot of times a Christian will say I believe but one Christian believes “ your saved by grace God chose you nothing you can do will change anything your saved by grace alone nothing else matters or applies “


Or of someone believes “ Jesus died for my sins so I can be saved he said I need to repent , he said I need to stop doing harm to mothers and start doing good he said I’ll be judged on every word and action I take he said if I continue in his doctrine I’ll know the truth and be set free ect but believe this “


These two folks can both say they believe but they actually believe very different things even opposite at some points

what I mean is it matters what doctrine we believe

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If I believe a fable about Jesus or if I believe the truth matters because false teachers really can lead a person astray with false doctrine a believer can be led astray believing false doctrine

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

demons believe Jesus is the son of God they know he rose from the dead but they reject him as thier lord and won’t submit to him they won’t accept his words of goodness and mercy and truth and everlasting life

we have to believe as the lord spoke it with the conditions he himself placed upon it believing in Jesus does absolutely save people it’s the only to g that can but we have to believe him as he presents himself and salvation not as false teachers oreeent him and salvation

believers can believe the wrong things even be led astray after believing right things