Biblical Discipline (yes I mean spanking)

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oldethennew

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God can be very 'harsh' when He chooses, do some reading, and learn -
God can be very 'kind', when He chooses, do some reading, and learn -
God has the most tender-heart of any being, human or spiritual -
God is full of mercy, patience, kindness, and understanding above all -
yes, God is all of the above things that you have stated, and
actually much more than any of us know...
BUT,
HEB. 12:28.
Wherefore we receiving a Kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace,
whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
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For our God is a Consuming Fire.
ROMANS 11:22.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity;
but toward you, goodness, ((if you continue in His goodness: otherwise you also shalt be cut off))).
 
Butterflyyy

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oldethennew said:
God can be very 'harsh' when He chooses, do some reading, and learn -
God can be very 'kind', when He chooses, do some reading, and learn -
God has the most tender-heart of any being, human or spiritual -
God is full of mercy, patience, kindness, and understanding above all -
yes, God is all of the above things that you have stated, and
actually much more than any of us know...
BUT,
HEB. 12:28.
Wherefore we receiving a Kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace,
whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.
For our God is a Consuming Fire.
ROMANS 11:22.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity;
but toward you, goodness, ((if you continue in His goodness: otherwise you also shalt be cut off))).
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I don’t need to do some reading and learn, I’m well aware that God is a righteous judge but I also know full well that my Heavenly Father is far more merciful and patient with me than I can comprehend and He never treats me as I deserve- I am humbled by His kindness to me. You are very rude and that is not a fruit of the Spirit, I would say that you need to learn to treat your brothers and sisters with more grace and also ask for wisdom because the weightier matter in this discussion is that we are trying to combat abuse of children which is rife in Christian families. That is what is important here.
I have never suggested that we are not to walk in His goodness or that doing wrong is acceptable, or indeed that it does not have consequences.
My point is that He is not harsh and we are after all, discussing children here, who God Himself warns us to not be harsh with.
So yes, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of Almighty God, which you may do well to remember whilst your speaking to a fellow believer so arrogantly.
 
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3angelsmsg

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Butterflyyy said:
I don’t need to do some reading and learn, I’m well aware that God is a righteous judge but I also know full well that my Heavenly Father is far more merciful and patient with me than I can comprehend and He never treats me as I deserve- I am humbled by His kindness to me. You are very rude and that is not a fruit of the Spirit, I would say that you need to learn to treat your brothers and sisters with more grace and also ask for wisdom because the weightier matter in this discussion is that we are trying to combat abuse of children which is rife in Christian families. That is what is important here.
I have never suggested that we are not to walk in His goodness or that doing wrong is acceptable, or indeed that it does not have consequences.
My point is that He is not harsh and we are after all, discussing children here, who God Himself warns us to not be harsh with.
So yes, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of Almighty God, which you may do well to remember whilst your speaking to a fellow believer so arrogantly.
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I agree sis, that we ought to show mercy and grace to our children. And I spoke to friend of mine. Where he said every Sunday morning, he needs to go and wake up his children and the one has finish school already and other still at school. But he needs to wake them up otherwise they won't get ready for church. But I gave him advice to not wake them up for few weeks and see how will they react. Because through their actions you can already see what is in their heart. And if they reached young adult stage and still in the house. Why still force them to go to church. Because eventually when they leave the home they will follow whatever they feel like doing anyway. Why delay the inevitable? The goal is to get them to see that their salvation is their own responsibility and to get them to be independent of you as parent and let them be able to answer for their faith on their own not because of what my parents belief.
 
SkittlePumpkin

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There seems to often be a sort of 'war', if you will, in regards to the best method of discipline for children. Do we take the firm, "harsh" approach, or do we take a more tender and gentle approach?
I think the thing people don't realize is that the two aren't mutually exclusive; one can be firm and gentle simultaneously (as we are called to be as Christians in general, not just with our children).
This coupling of the two methods, I believe, can only truly be done with the the help of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Kim82

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I dont think older kids should be spanked.

If some parenta had their way they would even spank their adult children.
 
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Kim82 said:
I dont think older kids should be spanked.

If some parenta had their way they would even spank their adult children.
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Sometimes I think my adult children need a good spanking, but God took that responsibility away when they left home. Now all I can do is pray for them.
 
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CassieKFamily said:
hello, im a christian mother of two boys, and our faith plays a big part in our family life. The boys love church thankfully! was wondering if there are other like minded parents who still spank out there, or for those who dont how they do discipline?
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Yes. But just don't ask them to "go outside and fetch you a switch"
On second thought, maybe that is why I had a moral compass. :unsure: Come to think of it, the spanking wasn't so bad. The act of picking out a thin branch that was going to be stripped of leaves and used to put a sting on my backside gave me time to reflect on my crime and what I could say to convince her I would not do that thing in the future in hopes of gaining a reprieve on the execution of the sentence. She might have had a plan all along! Wow.. Mom was smart. :)
 
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Billyd said:
Sometimes I think my adult children need a good spanking, but God took that responsibility away when they left home. Now all I can do is pray for them.
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"all you can do is pray" is the BEST that anyone can do.

Praying for our kids, or anyone else will work more than all of our words and scolding. When the Holy Spirit convicts a man or woman and inspires them to "what could be" if they will surrender to Christ. This can happen as a result of our intercession in prayer more than all of our words ever spoken.
 
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oldethennew

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as a youngster, I well remember an incident between my grandmother, who I was living with
at the time, and her son, who had been in the service and was married with children -
anyhow, he got drunk and became violent and knocked out his wife's front tooth,
then poured ketchup on himself and went to the hospital saying that he was the
injured one -
when my grandmother found out about what he did, after being released, 'can u imagine
the reactions of the staff? they probably passed that one on for generations' -
my brother and I watched her go and find a belt and then she put us in the car
and we drove over to his house, wife and kids had left -
she told us to stay in the car and she went in the house with the belt and gave him
his come-up-ence...she was about 5'2", and him about 6'...
you can't make this stuff up, she told us what she did...
 
Billyd

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oldethennew said:
as a youngster, I well remember an incident between my grandmother, who I was living with
at the time, and her son, who had been in the service and was married with children -
anyhow, he got drunk and became violent and knocked out his wife's front tooth,
then poured ketchup on himself and went to the hospital saying that he was the
injured one -
when my grandmother found out about what he did, after being released, 'can u imagine
the reactions of the staff? they probably passed that one on for generations' -
my brother and I watched her go and find a belt and then she put us in the car
and we drove over to his house, wife and kids had left -
she told us to stay in the car and she went in the house with the belt and gave him
his come-up-ence...she was about 5'2", and him about 6'...
you can't make this stuff up, she told us what she did...
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My grandfather caught my dad and uncle fighting in the field that they were supposed to be plowing. He dropped his plow, took a strap off his mule, and proceeded to give the a whipping. My great grandmother was riding by when she saw them, she jumped off her wagon, grabbed a switch and proceed to correct my grandfather. While she was using the switch on him, she told him the next time he needed to whip them boys, get a switch. My dad said that they would rather have a strap than a switch any day.
 
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oldethennew

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my grandmother once told me to go and find a switch, needless to say,
it was a very little one: it was the first and last time I had to do that,
and of course, it was my feelings that hurt the most, with a little
stinging on my bare legs...
same thing happened with a ruler, just once by grandmother -
and just once by my 3rd grade teacher when I totally didn't hear
her say to everyone to sit be silent - she rapped the top of my hand
just once, but oh my, i was so deeply embarrassed...
 
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Hjulle51

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oldethennew said:
my grandmother once told me to go and find a switch, needless to say,
it was a very little one: it was the first and last time I had to do that,
and of course, it was my feelings that hurt the most, with a little
stinging on my bare legs...
same thing happened with a ruler, just once by grandmother -
and just once by my 3rd grade teacher when I totally didn't hear
her say to everyone to sit be silent - she rapped the top of my hand
just once, but oh my, i was so deeply embarrassed...
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they used birch when I grow up was in almost every Christian home
 
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oldethennew

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Hj,
we live in the southern part of the usa, this is what was available to them at time!!!...
:):)
 
Lanolin

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I dont recall Jesus spanking his disciples
as for children, it seems those that are unable to teach, seems to resort to spanking. The justify it by saying they their object of spanking is unable to learn, but never consider that they themselves are poor teachers. Teachers need to gear their teaching to a childs ability to understand, step by step.

I had an incident in the library where an older girl threatened to give her younger sister a hiding. They were fighting over something as silly as a piece of paper or coloured pencil. The younger sister started crying and all the other children gathered round trying to sort it out. I told the two girls to go to the office and meet the deputy who was able to talk to them.

something really simple, like taking turns and waiting you turn, seems a bit lost on children. But its easy to teach when you get in the habit of it and do it everyday. You dont need to teach this by making threats. The older girl it seems got this idea from her parents it seems who probably gave their kids hidings. But its something we dont do at school.
what this teaches if you give a kid a hiding is that the parent is boss and cant be crossed and can use physical punishment as a way to have their own way, for whatever arbitrary reason. Its never seems to be related to what actually happens.
 
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Hjulle51

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CassieKFamily said:
hello, im a christian mother of two boys, and our faith plays a big part in our family life. The boys love church thankfully! was wondering if there are other like minded parents who still spank out there, or for those who dont how they do discipline?
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Any pro spanking parents who want to chat?
 
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kaylagrl

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CassieKFamily said:
depends on the kid, but i know plenty of families with older sons who still benefit from it fairly often!! i dont think hes too old by far, ive worked with many who decided to spank more later in life
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I know this is an old thread but no, seriously, no. Nothing wrong with a few taps when they are younger for their own safety. And at that you have to be careful. But if you're still trying to spank when they are older, you've failed utterly at parenting.
 
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