Biblical Parenting vs Modernism

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What do YOU think is the dominant problem in modern culture?

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The Bible doesn't give to parents every conceivable avenue of instruction for raising kids other than things like this:

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Pro 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Today, we're seeing many parents exuding resentment toward their children, which isn't a circumstantial problem but a systemic failure of character or execution, pointing to one of two root causes. The first, and most common, is a narcissistic worldview where the parent is so consumed by their own ego that any external demands—especially the needs of their children—are perceived as a threat. These parents place themselves at the center of the universe and resent their children for being separate, demanding beings who disrupt that centrality.

The second possibility is that the children are genuinely difficult, but this outcome is not an accident; it is the direct result of the parent's failure to raise them effectively.

In both scenarios, the responsibility is not external. We are facing a crisis of accountability, where the problem is located squarely within the parent, not the child, and yet we're bombarded with parents pointing their fingers at public schools, TV, gaming, friends, relatives, neighbors and/or the culture at large...any thing and any body but themselves!

Regardless of the pathway, the outcome is the same: a dysfunctional family dynamic. Both diagnoses place the ultimate responsibility on the parent. The issue is not the child’s existence but the parent’s failure—either through a flawed character (narcissism) or flawed execution (poor parenting).

MM
 
… because sin or brokenness in the child isn’t a plausible explanation for problems?
 
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Deuteronomy 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Parents and guardians are called to guide children in moral, ethical, and godly principles.

This means modeling good behavior, teaching Scripture, and shaping character rather than just punishing bad actions.

Just like we read the Bible that teaches us the word of God we are to relate that to our children.

So the Bible does give us instruction how to raise a child which are the ways of the Lord.

Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;).

Children are to obey and honor their parents for that is a good connection between them.

Which is the first commandment with promise for if a child does not humble themselves before their parents then they are less likely to humble themselves before God.

Children that are unruly and do not like the authority of their parents are more likely to carry that attitude in society and less likely to accept God than a child that obeys their parents.

Proverbs 30:11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.

12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.

14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

This is speaking of the last generation before Jesus comes back that will be unlike any generation before it.

Which one of them is children not obeying their parents being disobedient.

Which we see today.

The 1960's counter culture movement with the rebelling against mainstream society, and the attitude do your own thing, caused a societal shift towards immorality, selfishness, arrogance, and less involvement in Church and the word of God.

Which became worse as time went on.

The youth about 16 years old and up were rebelling against authority which the age of the children rebelling got lower and lower.

That is what the song Bye Bye Miss American Pie is about how the 1950's was a good era, more people were involved in Church, were happier, and less complications.

But the 1960's counter culture movement with music is their savior took them away from that to a more disturbing, more complicated time.

The 1960's counter culture movement caused the shift for the way to the beast kingdom.

The Woke movement increasing the attitude and the LGBTQ community and feminism.

Which the counter culture movement caused fighting among the people which added to the behavior of selfishness and arrogance.

Which Americans fight more in society and on the internet and more divisions than any other nation.

Which American society affects the other nations among their society.

Which we see the attitude in society today and when the antichrist starts working in the world they will be more likely to be on board with his religion that exalts people and there is no God.

Which is the time that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts.

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

But although children should obey and honor their children the parents also have a responsibility to act right and to deal with the children rightly.

For if not it can cause children to want to rebel and to be defiant.

Because of the 1960's counter culture movement that caused an increase in selfishness, and immorality, and arrogance, in society it caused the parents to not act proper, not enforce good morals to their children as much, and slack in the duty of a parent.

Causing children to rebel, defy, and be discouraged to the point that children think parents suck or at least somewhat.

Because of the increased immorality it caused parents to be drunkards, druggies, cursing, against their neighbors, short with their children, in trouble with the law, and the such that immorality causes.

Which the children think their parents are telling them what to do all the while the parents do not act right.

It causes children to not want to listen to their parents and do what they want adding to the immorality.

They rebelled in the 1960's and then became parents being worse and then their children became parents being worse.

Also the increased immorality in society in general caused children to be more rebellious.

Because the parents being slack today compared to the 1950's and before the children are more rebellious and unruly than in the past.

Children should obey and honor their parents but parents have a responsibility to behave like a parent should or the children will not behave like they should.

America has gotten to the point that it is over for immorality, and selfishness, and arrogance, rule the day, and even if they somewhat honor their parents which many do the increased immorality have them entangled in that.

But even if they get along somewhat with their parents we still see rebellion in them.

Now it is on to the beast kingdom for the last generations attitude is different.

The children are the future and the 1960's counter culture movement the affects of it affects the children as well as the people in society.

Cause the children to be rebellious and the future will change.

Is that the plan all along which I believe it is to produce a people who will side with the system to come.
 
… because sin or brokenness in the child isn’t a plausible explanation for problems?

Good question. The issue isn't that there are no problems, at times, in any family. The issue is the RESULT in how children turn out. Far too many bad "parents" are blaming others for their own failures.

MM
 
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Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Deuteronomy 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Parents and guardians are called to guide children in moral, ethical, and godly principles.

This means modeling good behavior, teaching Scripture, and shaping character rather than just punishing bad actions.

Just like we read the Bible that teaches us the word of God we are to relate that to our children.

So the Bible does give us instruction how to raise a child which are the ways of the Lord.

Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;).

Children are to obey and honor their parents for that is a good connection between them.

Which is the first commandment with promise for if a child does not humble themselves before their parents then they are less likely to humble themselves before God.

Children that are unruly and do not like the authority of their parents are more likely to carry that attitude in society and less likely to accept God than a child that obeys their parents.

Proverbs 30:11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.

12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.

14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

This is speaking of the last generation before Jesus comes back that will be unlike any generation before it.

Which one of them is children not obeying their parents being disobedient.

Which we see today.

The 1960's counter culture movement with the rebelling against mainstream society, and the attitude do your own thing, caused a societal shift towards immorality, selfishness, arrogance, and less involvement in Church and the word of God.

Which became worse as time went on.

The youth about 16 years old and up were rebelling against authority which the age of the children rebelling got lower and lower.

That is what the song Bye Bye Miss American Pie is about how the 1950's was a good era, more people were involved in Church, were happier, and less complications.

But the 1960's counter culture movement with music is their savior took them away from that to a more disturbing, more complicated time.

The 1960's counter culture movement caused the shift for the way to the beast kingdom.

The Woke movement increasing the attitude and the LGBTQ community and feminism.

Which the counter culture movement caused fighting among the people which added to the behavior of selfishness and arrogance.

Which Americans fight more in society and on the internet and more divisions than any other nation.

Which American society affects the other nations among their society.

Which we see the attitude in society today and when the antichrist starts working in the world they will be more likely to be on board with his religion that exalts people and there is no God.

Which is the time that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts.

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

But although children should obey and honor their children the parents also have a responsibility to act right and to deal with the children rightly.

For if not it can cause children to want to rebel and to be defiant.

Because of the 1960's counter culture movement that caused an increase in selfishness, and immorality, and arrogance, in society it caused the parents to not act proper, not enforce good morals to their children as much, and slack in the duty of a parent.

Causing children to rebel, defy, and be discouraged to the point that children think parents suck or at least somewhat.

Because of the increased immorality it caused parents to be drunkards, druggies, cursing, against their neighbors, short with their children, in trouble with the law, and the such that immorality causes.

Which the children think their parents are telling them what to do all the while the parents do not act right.

It causes children to not want to listen to their parents and do what they want adding to the immorality.

They rebelled in the 1960's and then became parents being worse and then their children became parents being worse.

Also the increased immorality in society in general caused children to be more rebellious.

Because the parents being slack today compared to the 1950's and before the children are more rebellious and unruly than in the past.

Children should obey and honor their parents but parents have a responsibility to behave like a parent should or the children will not behave like they should.

America has gotten to the point that it is over for immorality, and selfishness, and arrogance, rule the day, and even if they somewhat honor their parents which many do the increased immorality have them entangled in that.

But even if they get along somewhat with their parents we still see rebellion in them.

Now it is on to the beast kingdom for the last generations attitude is different.

The children are the future and the 1960's counter culture movement the affects of it affects the children as well as the people in society.

Cause the children to be rebellious and the future will change.

Is that the plan all along which I believe it is to produce a people who will side with the system to come.

No doubt that the real enemy is he who is the enemy of our souls, which are the powers and principalities of the air.

MM