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Stinger
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Not true. It is this simple, the existence of life cannot be explained by natural methods. That only leaves the supernatural.
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Stinger
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Well, I would rather be God's idiot than man's genius. (And by the way, if Ken is an idiot, I would hate to think of where that would put Bill.)
Again, just because something can't currently be scientifically proven, doesn't mean that it isn't so. Doesn't mean that it is either. But you see the problem.
Wrong, this is special pleading.
This is the "You are wrong, therefore I am right" argument which ignores all other possible explanations.
1) Life still may have come to exist naturally, we just dont know how yet.
2) Life may have come supernaturally, but that in itself is very vague. You imply that "supernatural" means that an infinite personal being spoke something into existence. Could supernatural mean something else? Of course it could, the problem with supernatural explanations is that it is all speculation. Any number of possible supernatural explanations could all be just as likely to have happened.
hahhah at least as much as you...or maybe we both 10 to the fiftieth power could care less about the age of the earth....it is older than all of us and that is for sure!
Methinks your'e going to be doing some "special pleading", though fruitless, on judgement day, unless you accept the only cure for your terminal sin disease, Jesus Christ.
1. You sin, too.
2. This is an appeal to fear, and a condemnation without merits.
3. You can't assume to know what deeds this person does or what lies in their motives, but I can hazard a guess that should they do a good deed, it will be for a more selfless reason that to avoid hell.
4. Threatening someone to join your club, and inferring that they don't know Jesus because they are outside your club, is to assume that you and your club are the only ones who know Jesus. In reality, you have a title, 'Christian', and while in popular opinion that title is synonymous with good-will and compassion, in practice, it is only a title.
5. Walking Jesus' walk doesn't require a title.
I have already accepted Jesus Christ and repented.....the only difference is now I no longer think it is real.
But fact remains I have already done what is required in the Bible to be saved.
Of course I sin too, but I've taken the ONLY antidote to cure the eternal effects of it.
Your'e right, Christianity is ABSOLUTELY intolerant about ANY other way to achieve eternal life. This truth infuriates the world.
Deeds have NOTHING to do with salvation. NO ONE will get saved by their own works. Not the most generous, giving person, who dedicated their life to helping the needy, not the Pope, not Mother Teresa, NO ONE! ONLY by the blood of Jesus Christ will anyone be saved.
And yet believing is a verb. Taking an antidote is an action. And walking down a path is something that must be 'done'.
Yet apparently you can 'acheive' by doing none of these things. Explain to me how that works again.
Ok I'll be happy to explain again, by reciting the Gospel which is encapsulated in this verse:
Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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Stinger
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Actually, Jhana, the problem is much worse than you realize. Evolution, by its very nature, violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics big-time, and therefore it already is a mathematical impossibility (according to the laws of physics). So, try to understand, evolution has already been proven to be impossible, therefore, people need to be looking at the only other method of origins, which is the supernatural, because natural has already disqualified itself by its own laws.
Heb 6:4
4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[c] away, to be brought back to repentance.
Heb 10:26
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
So it seems it is impossible for me to return to repentance and I only await judgment and raging fire.
Is this not in contradiction to what Jesus said?
John 10:28
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[c]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
John 6:44
44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.
The answer is the question: You never believed in your heart.
If you did, you would continue to believe.
Wrong, it only violates the 2nd Law if we are in a closed system which we are not.
Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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st_sebastian
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Additionally, the second law is only a statement about probabilities. It does not say what most definitely must occur; it allows for temporary moves towards decreased entropy. To say that it's impossible means that one insists low probability events never occur.
It doesn't. Read this, it explains it rather well.
Curious About Astronomy: Does evolution contradict the second law of thermodynamics?
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TodayJunior
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Psalm 62:12 For you render to each one according to his works.
Proverbs 10:16 The labour of the righteous tendeth to life: the fruit of the wicked to sin.
Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Jeremiah 17:10 I the Lord ... give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Ezekiel 18:27, 30 When the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness ... and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul. (V.27)I will judge you ... every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. (v.30)
Matthew 5:20 Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.
Matthew 19:17 If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 25:41-46 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Luke 10:26-28 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Romans 2:6, 13 Who will render to each one according to his deeds. ... For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified.
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the jugment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
2 Corinthians 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
Philippians 2:12 Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
James 1:22 Be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves
James 2:14, 17, 21-25 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? (v.14)Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. (v.17)
Was not Abraham our father justified by works? You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Likewise, was not Rabab the harlot also justified by works? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (vv.21-25)
1 Peter 1:17 The Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work.
Revelation 2:23 I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Revelation 20:12-13 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life.