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But you mocked and scoffed that Biblical truth when presented with it before.
you do it so often you don't even realize it.
Yes, you did that, and said it was absurd when I said the unbeliever hates God.

You were not always a believer. Are you exempt form this Biblical Truth?


I never hated God , why say these things this is absurd.

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John 3 v 20-21 ~ Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever practices the truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.
 
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Sure. While I doubt most people actually do, one can begin by thanking God for the clothes they have, thanking Him for the means to purchase them, thanking Him that we live in a time when clothing is readily available and that the division of labor means one doesn't have to make their own clothes, etc.

Then get dressed. I could have added more, but you should be able to get the gist of it.
 
Sure. While I doubt most people actually do, one can begin by thanking God for the clothes they have, thanking Him for the means to purchase them, thanking Him that we live in a time when clothing is readily available and that the division of labor means one doesn't have to make their own clothes, etc.

Then get dressed. I could have added more, but you should be able to get the gist of it.
So thank God that we are free to wear what we want ?
 
Sure. While I doubt most people actually do, one can begin by thanking God for the clothes they have, thanking Him for the means to purchase them, thanking Him that we live in a time when clothing is readily available and that the division of labor means one doesn't have to make their own clothes, etc.

Then get dressed. I could have added more, but you should be able to get the gist of it.
1 Corinthians 10 v 31 is a well-known biblical verse in which the Apostle Paul instructs
believers: "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God."
 
Yes, you did that, and said it was absurd when I said the unbeliever hates God.

You were not always a believer. Are you exempt form this Biblical Truth?
there see my point was true you constantly accuse anyone who disagrees with you, and yes I always was a believer I have always known God was close by even from a very young Age. I knew it, I felt it, I still do.

you bore me with your false accusations, please dont reply cause I wont.

anyone can do a search with your username and the word Lie or Lies or Liar, and and chose "everywhere" and will find hundreds of examples of you calling people these things, even on this thread.

liar is one of your favourites you use it often.
 
there see my point was true you constantly accuse anyone who disagrees with you, and yes I always was a believer I have always known God was close by even from a very young Age. I knew it, I felt it, I still do.

you bore me with your false accusations, please dont reply cause I wont.

anyone can do a search with your username and the word Lie or Lies or Liar, and and chose "everywhere" and will find hundreds of examples of you calling people these things, even on this thread.

liar is one of your favourites you use it often.
That is just another false accusation since I do not constantly accuse anyone who disagrees with me.

Try being honest. You have told us you are not coming back to this thread how many times now???

Always was a believer. Oh? Born a believer?
 
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Paul did not teach free will of the natural man (the man not in Christ). We are set free in Christ.
The term free will was coined by the Ante-Nicene Church fathers when they were explaining and defending the faith against pagan religions and philosophies . Because this word has a historical context we are not free to put our own spin on it. That being said,
perhaps you could explain how you are defining FREE WILL so we won't get started on the wrong foot.
 
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The term free will was coined by the Ante-Nicene Church fathers when they were explaining and defending the faith against pagan religions and philosophies . Because this word has a historical context we are not free to put our own spin on it. That being said,
perhaps you could explain how you are defining FREE WILL so we won't get started on the wrong foot.
Free will debates have been going on since before Christ walked this world.

Not once does the Bible say the natural man's will is free... in fact, quite the opposite, since he is a slave to sin and captive to to the will of the devil, blinded to truth, opposed to the spiritual things of God, unable/incapable of submitting to God or obeying Him. But in the mind of free willer/Pelagian heretics that is freedom. He hears the gospel as foolishness but the foolishness of free willers is that that person will choose to believe even though Jesus said it is impossible. The natural man can no more change his God hating heart than an Ethiopian can change the colour of his skin or a leopard his spots. He is unable to hear, incapable of submitting to God, a lover of darkness, refusing to come into the light, hearing the gospel as foolishness, unable to receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God, to which he is opposed and to Whom he is hostile toward while under the power and influence of the devil, as is the whole world, out of which believers have been called.

It is out of man's nature that he makes choices, and with the heart that one believes... the free will proponents essentially assert that the incurably wicked heart of the natural/unregenerated man is free to choose to believe that which he is not only opposed to, but that which he can neither receive/accept nor comprehend. They have the man with zero wisdom acting wise to do God's will when Scripture says that man cannot. And their idea of wisdom is that person choosing to believe what they hear as foolishness. They reject what Jesus said about it being impossible for a bad tree to bring forth good fruit, and there are none good, no, not one! But they reject a whole slew of Scriptures from beginning to end of the Bible, such as nothing good lives in man's flesh, and flesh serves the law of sin, and brings forth fruit unto death, all in favour of a doctrine that has zero support in the Bible, with not one verse articulating what they prefer over what is actually said. In fact they routinely contradict and deny what is explicitly stated, and really seem unable to stop ascribing to the unregenerated man qualities, characteristics, and abilities that only the regenerated person is in possession of. Some of these people are so liberated in their thinking against Biblical truth that they routinely blaspheme God and freely and repeatedly slander those they disagree with.
 
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So thank God that we are free to wear what we want ?
Everything is within God's divine providence.

God is Sovereign and has Dominion over his creation that is both of and from God.

Everything is part of God's plan.

You've heard the phrase, let go and let God?

Not easy to do when we like to think we control the direction of our lives by choice.

However, over the years I worked to do that very thing.

I learned too,if something is out of my hands,it might as be off my mind. So, I let go of the fear,anxiety,and so forth.

But,when I let go and let God lead me as He wills I start to notice things. The roadmap of lessons he intends to instill through experiences.

I've noticed ,when I step back emotionally and assess something I'm doing or that is happening in the moment . It is as if a door opens in my psyche in that moment,and I fuguratively see a thread leading through the door to my past. And at the end of that thread is this same event that's happening now. Only with very slight variations.

And in one instance,I even recalled what I said in that prior moment.
So, in the present similar one,I responded to this other person differently. And in that moment that door I saw open previously , closed.

To this day I not had a similar experience occur.

I think that was God showing me the reality of His being in control of all things. We are here learning what it is he has to teach us. And when,if,we follow His wisdom,we grow and move forward.

If not,a different opportunity arises,so we may then have another chance to apply what more we have learned and remember.

Many have said,life is a classroom.
Sunday school,if you will.

We're here as examples of God producing a play of and from Himself.
 
there see my point was true you constantly accuse anyone who disagrees with you, and yes I always was a believer I have always known God was close by even from a very young Age. I knew it, I felt it, I still do.

you bore me with your false accusations, please dont reply cause I wont.

anyone can do a search with your username and the word Lie or Lies or Liar, and and chose "everywhere" and will find hundreds of examples of you calling people these things, even on this thread.

liar is one of your favourites you use it often.

Are you surprised, that the selected for salvation, feel empowered to condemn and judge others over and over again?
I am not, seems to come with the territory of being part of the preferred status group.
 
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