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kennethcadwell
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Being baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit while being immersed in water was commanded by the Lord.
Peter makes this very clear in Acts 2:38, 10:47, and 1 Peter 3:21......
Holy Spirit first and forever water at your convenience.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Acts 2:38 is not water but Holy Spirit. 1 Peter 3:21 is not salvitic but symbolic.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Well, if one can loose it then ALL will cook.....there is not a just man upon the earth that does good and sins not.....for those who use the (blotted) out scriptures as proof I suggest a re-evaluation as they are all tied to UNBELIEF...my bible teaches me a few things like...
1. I am SEALED with the Holy Spirit of Promise unto the day of buyback
2. I am in the hand of the Father and the SON\
3. My salvation is based upon the perfect FAITH OF JESUS
4. My justification is based upon the PERFECT FAITH OF JESUS
5. What God does it is ETERNAL
6. Eternal means eternal...not temporary
7. My spirit is BORN again and DOES not sin as HIS SEED remaineth in ME
8. NO ONE can do enough work to keep, gain or facilitate salvation as it is a free GIFT that is GIVEN by the act of genuine faith into the resurrection of JESUS.....
9. Saved children of God can and do sin, fall and get back up without LOOSING salvation
10. Fellowship can be broken by sin, but SONSHIP does not change as a son is eternally a son by BIRTH!
1. I am SEALED with the Holy Spirit of Promise unto the day of buyback
2. I am in the hand of the Father and the SON\
3. My salvation is based upon the perfect FAITH OF JESUS
4. My justification is based upon the PERFECT FAITH OF JESUS
5. What God does it is ETERNAL
6. Eternal means eternal...not temporary
7. My spirit is BORN again and DOES not sin as HIS SEED remaineth in ME
8. NO ONE can do enough work to keep, gain or facilitate salvation as it is a free GIFT that is GIVEN by the act of genuine faith into the resurrection of JESUS.....
9. Saved children of God can and do sin, fall and get back up without LOOSING salvation
10. Fellowship can be broken by sin, but SONSHIP does not change as a son is eternally a son by BIRTH!
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kennethcadwell
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Acts 2:38 is not Holy Spirit baptism, as if you look at the scripture the Holy Spirit is administered to them after they were baptized in His name. It is two separate events that happen concurrent here;
[h=1]Acts 2:38[/h]38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
(Baptized first then they receive the Holy Spirit)
And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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kennethcadwell
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The bible also says the disobedient son will find their part in the lake of fire too............
Luke 12:46
the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
First of all I wont argue any more Kenneth as you consistently twist and miss eternal truths that contradict your view...
Second the bible teaches that God is the FATHER of ALL......even the LOST who are considered disobedient...so...keep trusting yourself and your works amigo!
I usually don't like to get into the cross fire in the threads aha. And I am honestly not fighting with you but..your post here caught my attention. Where at in the bible does it say even those who are lost are God's sons? Cause I'm dumb and need to hear differen't view points to learn.
I believe in OSAS. Either Jesus died for your sins or He did not. While it may be possible to have one's name blotted out of the book of life the bible does not say that it will indeed happen, only that it is possible.
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kennethcadwell
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Luke 12 is a good chapter as it talks about the disobedient servant.
We are all servants of Christ if we are under Him, and here in this chapter it says that if He comes and finds us not doing His will in our lives. Then we are considered disobedient and will be given a place in the lake of fire with the unbelievers. Some do not like this chapter and want to change it, because they do not like to realize that we are required to do the will of God in our lives as the Lord makes it clear in this verse;
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Then we have in Hebrews where it says that if you are not chastised by the Lord, meaning convicted through the Holy Spirit when you sin, then you are not sons.....Hebrews 12:5-8
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kennethcadwell
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Where was I arguing, as all I did was post scripture as to what else the bible said about being a disobedient servant.
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PWE
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Speaking of truth. Could you provide Scripture for "asking Jesus Christ to come into their heart and be the Lord and Savior of their life" ?
Bro Jesus is the only begotten son by birth.....we are sons through adoption...
Ephesians 1:5
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
so repent and be baptised and you shall receive the HS....isn't that what scripture says.....????
that is the promise....can you show me anywhere else in scripture where it is promised another way to receive the HS????...you can show others receiving the HS different ways but never recorded as a promise......
we are saved by grace through faith.....grace is ...the goodness of God leads us to repentance....faith is repent and be baptised for the remission of sins and you shall receive the HS...it is the promise.....where does the scripture say....
Jesus is at the door of your heart knocking....
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
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becca4peace
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Yes I am very confused but will continue to read my Bible. All I know I should do (anyways) is to live like a Christian should so that I cannot lose my salvation.
Romans 10- If thy confess with they mouth..
John 3:16- Believing on the Son
two to start with.. there are many many others. Though the specific words- ask Christ to come into your heart.. are not there..
believing in Jesus.. who then comes into your heart through the sealing of the Holy Spirit.. very much is. Which is the same thing in different words.
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