Can a Person Get to Heaven
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I believe a person is only saved by what Jesus did on the cross. But that we shouldn't live as we did before coming to Jesus ie in sin. But to ask God to help us to turn away from sin
[QUOTE="JaumeJ, post: 5250698, member: 94797"]When I came to truly believe I sought God, and He guided me to Jesus Yeshua, saying to me, "Everything is going to be just fine." I believe Him.[/QUOTE]
No ---you cannot come to faith by your self ---Faith is a gift from God ===you cannot drum up your own Saving faith -------Your Saving faith comes by having your heart changed from hardened to receptive by God the Father to receive the Message of the Gospel that inbirths the right faith in you to come to Jesus ----
Your Drawn by God the Father ---who opens up your ears and eyes to be Receptive to hearing the Word ---Who is Jesus -----who inbirths the right faith ion you -----
Your statement here goes against what Jesus Himself said -----NO ONE comes To Me except he is DRAWN BY THE FATHER ------Period ----what is it you don't understand about that Scripture -----
When I came to truly believe I sought God, and He guided me to Jesus Yeshua,
This word drawn in the greek --
Lexicon
helkó: to drag
Original Word: ἑλκύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: helkó
Phonetic Spelling: (hel-koo'-o)
Short Definition: I drag, draw, pull, persuade
Definition: I drag, draw, pull, persuade, unsheathe.
HELPS word-Studies
1670 helkýō – properly, induce (draw in), focusing on the attraction-power involved with the drawing
No ---you cannot come to faith by your self ---Faith is a gift from God ===you cannot drum up your own Saving faith -------Your Saving faith comes by having your heart changed from hardened to receptive by God the Father to receive the Message of the Gospel that inbirths the right faith in you to come to Jesus ----
Your Drawn by God the Father ---who opens up your ears and eyes to be Receptive to hearing the Word ---Who is Jesus -----who inbirths the right faith ion you -----
Your statement here goes against what Jesus Himself said -----NO ONE comes To Me except he is DRAWN BY THE FATHER ------Period ----what is it you don't understand about that Scripture -----
When I came to truly believe I sought God, and He guided me to Jesus Yeshua,
This word drawn in the greek --
Lexicon
helkó: to drag
Original Word: ἑλκύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: helkó
Phonetic Spelling: (hel-koo'-o)
Short Definition: I drag, draw, pull, persuade
Definition: I drag, draw, pull, persuade, unsheathe.
HELPS word-Studies
1670 helkýō – properly, induce (draw in), focusing on the attraction-power involved with the drawing
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Heaven? Not Interested!
It's an alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar; and when I leave here,
I will be leaving behind everything near and dear to me, e.g. photos,
mementos, souvenirs, collections, sights and sounds, mountains, creeks,
rivers and forests, clothing and equipment, tools, landmarks, entertainment,
hobbies, my spouse, BFF, and my beloved Ford Ranger pick-up truck, etc, etc.
The culture shock tsunami of leaving all that I know & love and going to a
foreign land where I know & love nothing at all, is not my idea of a good
time. Personally; I dread the thought of having to start all over again from
scratch.
NOTE: I've heard tell of folks thoroughly unable to form attachments to
anything, to anybody, nor to any place. When they leave this life, they will
leave nothing behind of sentimental value; nothing in the least, nothing at
all. It's like they lived their entire lives as turnips and carrots instead of
sentient beings.
* The one thing I do look forward to in Heaven is the possibility of a library
where everything that can be known about the cosmos is stored. Carl Sagan
would've loved a library like that because he went to his grave with a lot of
unanswered questions. But now they'll never be answered because Carl was,
at best, an agnostic, and at worst, an atheist.
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Heaven? Not Interested!
It's an alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar; and when I leave here,
I will be leaving behind everything near and dear to me, e.g. photos,
mementos, souvenirs, collections, sights and sounds, mountains, creeks,
rivers and forests, clothing and equipment, tools, landmarks, entertainment,
hobbies, my spouse, BFF, and my beloved Ford Ranger pick-up truck, etc, etc.
The culture shock tsunami of leaving all that I know & love and going to a
foreign land where I know & love nothing at all, is not my idea of a good
time. Personally; I dread the thought of having to start all over again from
scratch.
NOTE: I've heard tell of folks thoroughly unable to form attachments to
anything, to anybody, nor to any place. When they leave this life, they will
leave nothing behind of sentimental value; nothing in the least, nothing at
all. It's like they lived their entire lives as turnips and carrots instead of
sentient beings.
* The one thing I do look forward to in Heaven is the possibility of a library
where everything that can be known about the cosmos is stored. Carl Sagan
would've loved a library like that because he went to his grave with a lot of
unanswered questions. But now they'll never be answered because Carl was,
at best, an agnostic, and at worst, an atheist.
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You are going to have to prove it.
to who?
who is it that lacks this knowledge, and needs it?
I wonder why you think it will be an "alien world with which I am totally unfamiliar"? Surely you are right in that there will be things we have never seen or dreamed of here. But on the other hand, the new earth will surely look like and feel similar/familiar to us.
omniscient God can't see a person's heart?
omniscient God doesn't know?
omniscient God is full of doubt?
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My comments in post No.24 are relative to Heaven; which to my knowledge is
a celestial sphere rather than terrestrial; for example:
"Thy will be done in earth, as it is in Heaven." (Matt 6:10)
"I came down from Heaven" (John 6:38)
"My Father which is in Heaven." (Matt 7:21)
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My comments in post No.24 are relative to Heaven; which to my knowledge is
a celestial sphere rather than terrestrial; for example:
"Thy will be done in earth, as it is in Heaven." (Matt 6:10)
"I came down from Heaven" (John 6:38)
"My Father which is in Heaven." (Matt 7:21)
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Romans 5:8-11
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him!
For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
And not only [that,] but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation!