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can we marry in the life to come
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What we are in this flesh that cannot enter the kingdom of God is not what we will be. The former things pertaining to earth will not be remembered or ever come to mind ever again . Again as new creatures mankind (men and woman) is likened to a female, Christ's bride or wife. Christ is the spiritual seed .
No distinction between the old fleshly creation as far as flesh and blood, man and woman . The two, male and female become one part of the new body of Christ's wife . Like the angels with no gender tools needed to fulfill a commandment; Be fruitful and multiply.
I am not sure about your garden Isaiah reference, or the idea of a need to multiply?
The 2 books are already opened the seals removed if the names are not found in the lambs book of life .Is there a hidden book?
There is a interesting portion of Isiah speaks of the bride of Christ the church. Its the portion where God promised to rename His bride Israel when he named her Christian in Acts. A name with no other meaning added that means "residents of the city of Christ. Zion". The heavenly city where we have our citizenship as his bride..
Isaiah 62 King James Version (KJV) For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
The phrase or parable "thy land shall be married" (Zion) is speaking of the bride of Christ, the church .
Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the "holy city, new Jerusalem", coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
In the Isaiah reference. Thy sons is a reference to sons of God, male and female, believers or mankind that was made in the image of God, as one creation. (the two become one new creation.)
At first glance that parable according the literal understanding seemed to put the approval on same gender marriage Thy sons marry thee:
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: There it would seem to be saying Christ as the young man marries a virgin it is speaking of the bride of Christ .
Paul who suffered as in birth pains (segregate womb) with Timothy as Christ was being formed in him through the gospel used similar language in another parable.
2 Corinthians 11:2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you (male) to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Its one of those without parables Christ spoke not hiding the unseen eternal understanding from natural man who must walk by sight. They have No faith as that needed to be a member of the bride the church.
That's good.
I seem to remember some discussion about God having both male and female characteristics.
And even the name Elohim supposedly has a strong female attribute?
The Genesis 6 account divides "sons of God", a term to describe the bride of Christ (male and female) as born again mankind. Spirit giving birth to new spirit that could never die. Daughters of men... "flesh giving birth to flesh" natural mankind..
John 3:6 King James Version (KJV) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
There are no references of angels the unseen spirits in Genesis 6. men or man . Flesh or spirit.
Since we do not wrestle against the flesh we know our warfare has to do with that not seen the eternal. Not against taller men even if us shorter people do feel like grasshoppers beside them .We walk by faith we measure by faith the golden rule.
Genesis 6 King James Version (KJV)And it came to pass, when men (not angels) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, (flesh gives birth to flesh) That the sons of God ( male and female the new creation. "Spirit gives birth to spirit") saw the daughters of men (no new spirit) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, (not angels they are not subject to salvation. )for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
The warning is not to be unevenly yoked.God was still preserving the seed as a the generation of Christ. It was fulfilled in Mathew 1 the seed has come.
God is not going to remember the former things (sins) anymore but that is not the same as God blotting our entire memory of the events of our lives on earth or the relationships we had or the people that we interacted with.
The church is liken to a bride and not the people. I am a guy and have no desire whatsoever to become a bride in heaven or in the new earth or New Jerusalem.
There are those that may want to multiply and have children once again and this will happen through a male and female relationship. This may be especially true for those that had not ever experienced a loving and faithful marriage with God at the center or perhaps being childless through no fault of their own.
God does state that we can't even begin to imagine what He has in store for those that love Him. I really can't see myself just playing a harp and singing happy songs for eternity, and never to know once again intimacy and love. If this is what heaven is about then it going to be a boring place. I want to plant a garden, build a home and share it with my heart's desire. As for playing and happy songs, this is what having children is all about.
I am sure that there are going to be both male and female general tools, and probably with a few enhancements as well. Kind of strange for God to create a new universe but with relatively few people to populate and explore.
It's going to be quite an adventure and I am very much looking forward to it.
The 'sons of God' reference cannot possible be men because it says the sons of God saw the daughter's of men. If the sons of God were men there would be no need to state the word men twice in that statement. It should have said that the sons of God (if they were indeed ordinary men) saw the daughters and took wives who they chose. That verse does not even mention at all or imply that it was in reference to the bride of Christ. You apparently are reading more into that verse than was actually meant or implied. No where in the bible does it say that the 'sons of God' is actually going to be the bride of Christ.
We the church as the bride, although the OT does say the land will be married.
People tend to think marriage only applies to men and women and having children. Yes theres that in the flesh, but theres also a spiritual marriage that takes place with the lamb of God and his people that is talked about in revelation.
Why are there children in heaven well there will be people of all ages. Because on earth we die at all ages dont we. But we are all children to God. Even if we think we are adults. Of that makes sense. jesus said the saducees didnt know scriptures because they didnt believe in resurection of the dead and couldnt conceive of there being heaven being any different from what they could see on earth.
Well, they missed out didnt they?
People tend to think marriage only applies to men and women and having children. Yes theres that in the flesh, but theres also a spiritual marriage that takes place with the lamb of God and his people that is talked about in revelation.
Why are there children in heaven well there will be people of all ages. Because on earth we die at all ages dont we. But we are all children to God. Even if we think we are adults. Of that makes sense. jesus said the saducees didnt know scriptures because they didnt believe in resurection of the dead and couldnt conceive of there being heaven being any different from what they could see on earth.
Well, they missed out didnt they?
The Sons of God like the term mankind is a term that represents both the male and the female both together as a new creation. Spirit giving birth to our new spirit. (Son of God ) men and woman
Daughters of men (all mankind male and female) Flesh gives by birth to flesh .No new spirit life.
For as a young man(Christ) marrieth a virgin,(the church) so shall thy sons (the new creation)marry thee
Christ) and as the bridegroom (Christ) rejoiceth over the bride (thy sons the new creation ) so shall thy God rejoice over thee (thy sons the new creation ).Isaiah 622 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you(Timothy) with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband,(Christ) that I may present you (man) as a chaste virgin to Christ.
God the father is male as opposed to female hence the use of male parenting term "Father". To see his son is to see the Father and the Son was male as well.