Right, I forgot to use eisegesis, cherry picking to fit a system, etc., lol
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Right, I forgot to use eisegesis, cherry picking to fit a system, etc., lol
Regeneration preceding faith is a lie.
It cannot be defended biblically when using correct methods of interpretation, like CONTEXT!
Once again for those who need simple language to display their oxymoronic beliefs.
You’re not unilaterally given life so that you can decide to come to the Giver of Life. No! You come to the Life Giver in order to GET NEW LIFE!
The idea that God has to fix you in order for you to come to Jesus is not biblical. Jesus is the fix.
We can also add.....
The idea that Adam had the power and authority to break us so we wouldn't come to Jesus, is also not Biblical.
Calvinism makes Adam more sovereign than God.
It cannot be defended biblically when using correct methods of interpretation, like CONTEXT!
Once again for those who need simple language to display their oxymoronic beliefs.
You’re not unilaterally given life so that you can decide to come to the Giver of Life. No! You come to the Life Giver in order to GET NEW LIFE!
The idea that God has to fix you in order for you to come to Jesus is not biblical. Jesus is the fix.
We can also add.....
The idea that Adam had the power and authority to break us so we wouldn't come to Jesus, is also not Biblical.
Calvinism makes Adam more sovereign than God.
The natural man is hostile to God and hears the gospel as foolishness. They can no more change themselves than
a leopard can change its spots or an Ethiopian the color of their skin. But free willers do not believe such Scriptures.
They believe they were intelligent enough to figure it all out and choose what Scripture says they cannot. Then peeps
like Heis pretend there are no such verses so they can give glory to themselves... glory that belongs to God alone.
Are you implying that if given freewill Ethiopians would consider changing their color?
Just reading that portion of the discussion, yes I agree.
If I understand the other side of the discussion that is a very strange take.
The difference?
Law = This is what you are to do, and not to do.
Walking in Spirit and Truth = This is who you are in Christ, and who you are to be becoming
via transformation in the Spirit and Truth.
False or erroneous teaching can never allow for the following to take place in finding God's will for our lives.
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord,
are being transformed into the same image from one degree of
glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:18
Here is why only a few will find it.
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3
For many will go by their own personal preferences and choose what pleases them personally.It is the Destroyer to finding oneself walking in the Truth, Life, and Way.
I realize I can be just as guilty as anybody else....
That's why we all must work out our own salvation in fear and trembling!
Will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear?
A great number of teachers? The way to destruction (of the spiritual life) is said to be 'broad and wide.'
We're in it!
Spiritual warfare.
I have never bought into the idea that man's will is free... though my understanding of
the differences between the natural man and the spiritual man has certainly grown.
Free willers ascribe to the natural man what is only possible of the spiritual man.
We could show hundreds of posts where you clearly state or strongly imply that we believe after receiving salvation where the scripture clearly sates we receive salvation upon believing.
You have the horse before the cart every time.
Acts 16:31
So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
You can't, but go ahead and try. I've always said we are saved when we believe. I have also said that prior to belief, God gives a new heart and spirit, and places the Spirit in an individual, just as Ezekiel 36:26-27 teaches.
Well a seventh day adventis, says they believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, a Jehovah witness will tell you that and so on
Yeah, I'm the one who says it, I say it frequently, I mean it, and I believe it beyond question: we cannot believe until first being saved - salvation must happen first because anything else makes it of our work, not Christ's, and He alone is the Savior, we are not. You need to look at the tense of the "will be saved" of the verse you quoted if you're using that as your proof-text to demonstrate that believing happens first. It is in the future tense. If belief brings salvation, then salvation must coincide with it and not occur in the future
Nice try but the post I quoted said we receive the new heart, new spirit and the Holy Spirit before we believe. If you expect people to read it any different you need to change your language.
Believing something simply makes it the way God designed us to be. All men live and act in accordance with their belief. The only thing believing does is reveal who the man is. Believing something doesn't make it so. You seem to be of the opinion that if one believes something, they can change reality.
The only reason believing brings salvation is because God promised to save believers. If it were not so, one could believe till the cows come home and it would have no effect.
A nanosecond later is still in the future.
Your last post said that I said I believe people are saved before belief.
At any rate, grace and peace.