Cancer treatment choices

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I’d be really careful with the “natural cures only” stuff tbh. Some people absolutely improve quality of life with diet, sleep, stress control etc, but cancer is not the kind of thing I’d gamble on with YouTube gurus and miracle herbs. Combining medical treatment with healthier habits makes way more sense to me.
Why are the chemical companies requiring their low efficacious chemical treatments from over 50 years ago to continue to still be used?
Do they just need a few hundred billion more dollars of donations and tax funded grants for research?
 
I see no reason why a person shouldn't explore alternative treatments along with or instead of the conventional treatment advised by a physician.
Nothing should be dismissed as even unlikely ways can have a powerful placebo effect.
This is Dr Peter Osborne, who is one of the world's top 50 Integrative Physicians. He is a Nutritionist as well as a rare MD who cares enough about people to pursue expertise in the area of Health. I don't know if you are still looking for nutritional alternatives to chemicals, but here he briefly covers the ounce of prevention that nutrition offers.

 
The ones that I looked into restricted options to chemicals, radiation and surgery as the only options unless the majority of participants agreed to allow other options.
Right....
Medical Shaamen are not a viable treatment option.

Can't go to some guy who waves a feather dingus over you while chanting and call that a medical treatment.

They are only going to pay out for real medical treatments for real medical problems.

Things like spiritual ailments that require spiritual healers (shaamen and dingus routines) are not again available for medical payments.
 
However, even if your skin cancer is the sort that only requires a lotion be applied...and somehow your doctor wants to apply it in the Cayman Islands because of the air quality....

The travel, doctor, hotels, and ointment are covered. Meals are not. (It is your money inside an MSA)
Also any scuba diving or other recreational activities you might engage in....not gonna be covered....including that Shamaan Dance by firelight at the beach pig roasting.
 
Right....
Medical Shaamen are not a viable treatment option.

Can't go to some guy who waves a feather dingus over you while chanting and call that a medical treatment.

They are only going to pay out for real medical treatments for real medical problems.

Things like spiritual ailments that require spiritual healers (shaamen and dingus routines) are not again available for medical payments.
That's exactly what I avoid.

pharmakeus: sorcerer
Original Word: φαρμακεύς
Strong's Concordance
sorcerer.
From pharmakon (a drug, i.e. Spell-giving potion); a druggist ("pharmacist") or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a magician -- sorcerer.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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The exact term chosen by the medical industry.


I talked to representatives of two American Medical Savings Account organizations. It doesn't sound like yours offers health based options either.
 
Headed to a dermatologist this afternoon to check and see if any bumps on my skin/scalp are cancerous. One bump came out of nowhere on the back of my scalp less than 6 months ago, so I want to check it out.
 
Google Belle Gibson
Or Apple Cider Vinegar (Netflix)

A cautionary tale....
 
Does homeopathy work for things like cancer? Or just another form of shamanism?
 
Apparently, I don’t have cancer. It’s just a keratin buildup at the back of my scalp, in the shape of a mole.

Some shampoo and topical oil will remove it, supposedly.
 
Does homeopathy work for things like cancer? Or just another form of shamanism?
Homeopothy is often confused with Naturopathy. They are altogether different.
Naturopathic Health is a generic term that applies to that which God created :

Anatomy
Physiology
Nutrition
Fitness
Environmental influences
Stress
Sleep
Sunshine
Etc....
Actual Naturopathic practices that I ascribe to are observable, measurable and quantifiable, following Scientific methodology. This goes counter to the pseudoscientific / science falsely so called, which the majority of pharmakea and homeopathy is based upon.

Homeopathy according to Wikipedia "believe that a substance that causes symptoms of a disease in healthy people can cure similar symptoms in sick people; this doctrine is called similia similibus curentur, or "like cures like".
Homeopathic preparations are termed remedies and are made using homeopathic dilution. In this process, the selected substance is repeatedly diluted until the final product is indistinguishable from the diluent. Often not even a single molecule of the original substance can be expected to remain in the product. Between each dilution homeopaths may hit and/or shake the product, claiming this makes the diluent "remember" the original substance after its removal. Practitioners claim that such preparations, upon oral intake, can treat or cure disease."

I see it as fitting into the category of energy medicine.
 
That's exactly what I avoid.

pharmakeus: sorcerer
Original Word: φαρμακεύς
Strong's Concordance
sorcerer.
From pharmakon (a drug, i.e. Spell-giving potion); a druggist ("pharmacist") or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a magician -- sorcerer.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
.
The exact term chosen by the medical industry.


I talked to representatives of two American Medical Savings Account organizations. It doesn't sound like yours offers health based options either.
Yes it does....many cancer treatment centers focus on the health of the patients and not just the death of their cancers...
And Cancer treatment centers are most definitely included in MSAs.

I dont know what you are reading about....but it's not MSAs which allows for self directed funds for medical expenses so long as it's not Shamaan.

They are just a savings account protected from taxation....some have insurance riders which fill the gap until yours is fully funded with cash.

Whatever you are reading about is NOT an MSA. Because the money is taxed if it comes out for non medical expenses at 45% between penalties and taxes. Making $1000 look like $550 overnight.
 
Actual Naturopathic practices that I ascribe to are observable, measurable and quantifiable, following Scientific methodology.
I'd like to see YOUR studies on this....
Naturopathic cures have literally killed thousands of patients with cure rates of less than 2%. Red mountain coffee enema treatments plus a good nap and etc do nothing for cancer despite the hype....
 
What is energy medicine?
Energy drinks? They contain caffeine and lots of sugar to give you energy.

My mum was on Ensure after she had cancer treatments. I asked for a supplement for her when she had a hard time eating. It saved her life, or extended it at least. She was back to full health for a time.
I think you really need something like that to give you nutrition, minerals vitamins etc thats easily digestable, it was like feeding a baby milk. But its something you have to ask for, they are not automatically going to give it to you in the hospital, where they expect you to eat all the horrible hospital food when you have no appetite.

She then had it on prescription and had to drink it every day. I would make it up for her, every morning, it was a powder with either water or cold milk (I used unsweetened almond). It comes in chocolate or vanilla or strawberry flavours. I'm sure most cancer patients and elderly are familiar with it. It doesn't get rid of the cancer, but it gives you strength to keep going. Cancer treatments can wipe you out.
 
I'd like to see YOUR studies on this....
Naturopathic cures have literally killed thousands of patients with cure rates of less than 2%. Red mountain coffee enema treatments plus a good nap and etc do nothing for cancer despite the hype....
One of my classes this week.
IF you care to listen.

The knowledge of one more class this week applied by the harmful MDs at Ruby Memorial Hospital would have likely prevented a stroke, brain damage, pain, multiple disabilities and inability to enjoy their retirement. Their love of money is their root of their evil .

 
I'd like to see YOUR studies on this....
Naturopathic cures have literally killed thousands of patients with cure rates of less than 2%. Red mountain coffee enema treatments plus a good nap and etc do nothing for cancer despite the hype....
One more of the classes based upon sound research and human Physiology.
How many classes did YOU take this week?

 
I'd like to see YOUR studies on this....
Naturopathic cures have literally killed thousands of patients with cure rates of less than 2%. Red mountain coffee enema treatments plus a good nap and etc do nothing for cancer despite the hype....
This was one more class in Anatomy/physiology diagnostics and treatment the other day.
I'm still waiting on what classes you took this week.
I want to see a sample of your curriculum and instruction.

 
One more of the classes based upon sound research and human Physiology.
How many classes did YOU take this week?

This guy is a Chiropractor...
AKA :Quack-a-practor.
His personal Claims of knowledge of biological chemistry are supported only by his ego and a rudimentary concept of nutrition.
My friend who holds her PHD in biogical Chemistry and is the department chair in her University for their Chemistry Department (I baked the cake at her Doctorate party....because she is my friend)

She says, "Just no" about this guy. "Sure, you might lose weight....but gluten sensitivity is a symptom of a larger issue that has yet to have a discovered cause"

Meaning....this guy at best gives out bandages for broken arms and in no way do I want him treating me for CANCER. He is not a doctor and cannot even prescribe drugs. Not even an antibiotic like a dentist can.
With him pushing his YouTube channel this way I have serious doubts about his chiropractic practice....if he was successful he would have too many clients and not enough time to do this.

Of course no MSA is going to allow you to give this Shamaan any money. He is the literal poster child for being a "quack". He is a shyster con-man....he only wants your money. He will say anything he thinks you want to hear to separate you from your money. He has never, or ever will be considered a "healer" of any sort. He doesn't even own dieticians license. (Which I personally passed on even though I needed just a couple of classes, along with paying the fees, to obtain)
This guy is eventually going to get arrested and sued for medical malpractice and nutritional abuse.

What is wrong with seeking life
 
This guy is a Chiropractor...
AKA :Quack-a-practor.
His personal Claims of knowledge of biological chemistry are supported only by his ego and a rudimentary concept of nutrition.
My friend who holds her PHD in biogical Chemistry and is the department chair in her University for their Chemistry Department (I baked the cake at her Doctorate party....because she is my friend)

She says, "Just no" about this guy. "Sure, you might lose weight....but gluten sensitivity is a symptom of a larger issue that has yet to have a discovered cause"

Meaning....this guy at best gives out bandages for broken arms and in no way do I want him treating me for CANCER. He is not a doctor and cannot even prescribe drugs. Not even an antibiotic like a dentist can.
With him pushing his YouTube channel this way I have serious doubts about his chiropractic practice....if he was successful he would have too many clients and not enough time to do this.

Of course no MSA is going to allow you to give this Shamaan any money. He is the literal poster child for being a "quack". He is a shyster con-man....he only wants your money. He will say anything he thinks you want to hear to separate you from your money. He has never, or ever will be considered a "healer" of any sort. He doesn't even own dieticians license. (Which I personally passed on even though I needed just a couple of classes, along with paying the fees, to obtain)
This guy is eventually going to get arrested and sued for medical malpractice and nutritional abuse.

What is wrong with seeking life

The registered dieticians I've met are morally horrible people.
They should know that they murder patients by nutritional starvation, yet heap in the money in spite of the harm they do. I'm talking the so called best hospitals in my state.
I've learned more practical nutritional health care this month than any of them get in their stupid post grad program.

I just took a class on the anatomy, physiology, cause, prevention and treatment of strokes while prepping and eating my daily meal. I did that because I care about people, unlike your nurses MDs and registered dieticians.