Chris Rosebrough—Pirate Christian or Pirate?
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Less than 30% of REGULARLY CHURCH ATTENDEES at church read their Bible daily...those who don't attend church on a regular are even a smaller percentage of daily Bible readers.
Then you have the internet Christians who practice "sound byte" theology of twisting one particular verse pulled out of context to be whatever sort of license they want.
Most professing Christians don't know scripture and therefore don't know God.
Destruction is easy...it doesn't require any talent to destroy a church or ministers.
Construction is very difficult. And the foundations of a group will tell the tale of its future.
I've seen huge charismatic churches absolutely evaporate when the senior leaders are caught up in scandals...because in truth the whole church was built around one person that wasn't God.
And this sounds like "evil men and imposters" or teachers telling people what they want to hear that Paul prophesied about in 2Timothy chapter 3.
Who is it that is preaching?
What messages are they preaching?
Why are they preaching what they are preaching?
Parents teach their children out of a genuinely selfless desire to see them truly happy...others are a bit more suspect.
Less than 30% of REGULARLY CHURCH ATTENDEES at church read their Bible daily...those who don't attend church on a regular are even a smaller percentage of daily Bible readers.
Then you have the internet Christians who practice "sound byte" theology of twisting one particular verse pulled out of context to be whatever sort of license they want.
Most professing Christians don't know scripture and therefore don't know God.
Destruction is easy...it doesn't require any talent to destroy a church or ministers.
Construction is very difficult. And the foundations of a group will tell the tale of its future.
I've seen huge charismatic churches absolutely evaporate when the senior leaders are caught up in scandals...because in truth the whole church was built around one person that wasn't God.
And this sounds like "evil men and imposters" or teachers telling people what they want to hear that Paul prophesied about in 2Timothy chapter 3.
Who is it that is preaching?
What messages are they preaching?
Why are they preaching what they are preaching?
Parents teach their children out of a genuinely selfless desire to see them truly happy...others are a bit more suspect.
I think if you listened to but one of his messages, you wouldn't think like this. He focuses on popular cultists (so-called Christians), who in my view, take Christ's name in vain, and likely thousands or tens of thousands to Hell with them.
Surely even non-Christians can help those who think they are animals or vegetables? This man is helping those which think they are Christ's, but are not.
On this one we agree. There is no such thing as a "watchman" ministry in the new testament. There are prophets, there are elders, there are this and that, but there is no ministry in nitpicking everyone else. EVEN IF there is a reason for rebuking someone, you cannot base your entire ministry on just rebuking other pastors or bible teachers, the main point to get the Gospel out to the lost!
There's a place for discernment ministries, especially now, with so much apostasy and false teaching going 'round. Discernment is a spiritual gift for the building up of the saints, like any other gift. But we have to test the spirits of the discerners as well. Just because someone has a discernment ministry that doesn't mean they should be trusted.
In my experience, those who cry the most loudly against discernment ministries do so because they have something invested in what is being exposed, and therefore something to lose.
Have you actually listened to him? I'm hoping most people have not by the comments I'm reading. He speaks against false teachers, much the way Paul did in Galatians, and much the way the entire NT church fathers did against apostasy for the first few centuries. This is not nitpicking Christians. These are false prophets disguised as pastors - wolves in sheepskins, that tens of thousands (or more) are following into Hell.
Okay...
But you are wrong. There was lots of these false doctrines almost immediately after the Early Church was started and began to spread.
And the way to combat the false doctrines has been laid out clearly already...not by finger pointing but by telling how good and real God is as well as explaining what Holy lifestyles are point by point in opposition to the heresies.
None of us are truly blameless. There are none righteous, no not one. Even the best amongst us doing their most righteous acts are as feces in a cesspool.
It's a target rich environment.
We are only blameless because of Jesus...what God wants from us is clearly laid out in scripture...both in the Old and New testaments. And it hasn't really changed.
Walking humbly with God is not in alignment with slandering others. Even if it is true.
This is a very enlightening video; it's also very long. Part 2, the part that talks about Chris Rosebrough, Phil Johnson and Justin Peters and their video about J.D. Hall starts at 1:18:45.
I already answered that. The path was laid out for us in scriptures. Tell positives and not negatives. Tell what God has done for you.
I am watchman. The man Watch for the second coming show.nothing more, I am still a believer as you.
Man is creative in inventing sin. However it's much easier and plausible to know truth instead of studying every form of error invented and who is teaching yet another type of error.
Every cult out there twists the truth to suit their own wants. And if you never waiver from the truth...cults don't stand a chance.
There are some very clever cults out there...they seem to be very good on the surface...but once deep inside they are very very warped. We have one in middle TN that caught the daughter of a friend of mine. He didn't know that they were a cult (thought that they were just another church of similar theologies) and by the time he figured out that there was a problem it was too late. They had her heart and mind in their grip poisoning their relationship.
I can assure you I have no money coming in from any sort of spiritual activity whatsoever. Im just a regular joe.
That's right. And in any event the false teachers don't bother to listen to any criticism anyhow. They just keep on going like the Energizer bunny.
Man you really don't get it (or maybe you do get it). It's not about trying to get false teachers to repent; that ship has sailed. It's about protecting the flock who still care about truth.
Chris Roseborough has stated many time his is not a cessationist. Lutherans are not necessarily cessationists.
They just agreed that JD can never be a pastor again. But that he can repent and be restored to fellowship.